We need standard EV battery sizes/types
Junk entire car over Scratched Battery ?
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Agreed!
Haha. cars are only 14% of national energy consumption. We could get rid of all of them and still be at 86% of our prior use
At first glance that seems viable. Modules that have integrated cooling and connectors. Costly and heavy. But recyclable, replaceable and so on.
Because it's an engineering tradeoff. Making it modular is a design compromise. Just like phone and laptop batteries, but with even more impact.
I am not sure I follow. You asked me a question; I answered there was not a single fact or even supported point in the article.
Facts matter.
That's funny? By the way, I am not a cult member.
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That might start a s__t storm.
I am quite sure the junkyard operators and insurance companies know exactly how many claims are being paid and and how many batteries are being recycled. It seems any "facts" that go against the EV agenda will never be good enough for you and the disciples.
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I am no one's disciple. Nor a cult member.
If you read what I posted, I did not say the article was wrong; I said it lacked support.
I called it clickbait for that reason. Accountability matters.
I have stated many times that EVs are not for everyone. In my case, I don't care for a lot of EVs, just like I don't care for a lotta cars.
Buy what you want; it's your money.
You talk about agenda. Remember the story about the Model S crash in Texas on the private road, killing 2 men in the back seat, with no one driving? Update. Facts matter.
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What caused the crash and fire? Auto pilot? Driver error? Lithium ion battery?
I think it'd be nice to see more push for plug-in hybrids before really stepping on the "gas" on pure BEVs like the industry seems to be doing. Could stretch battery material supply much farther, still slash gasoline use (for those able to charge regularly) and is more resistant to interruptions in the supply of both sources of energy. (both large and small scale, and albeit subject to the specifics of a given PHEV's powertrain design) and of course, a smaller battery to repair/replace when they go bad.
But I imagine the beancounters did the math, or found the average person didn't take enough advantage or just didn't buy.
But I imagine the beancounters did the math, or found the average person didn't take enough advantage or just didn't buy.
I bet the new Toyota Prius will sell like hotcakes and their owners will love them.
Now if the Toyota dealers jack up the price, people just might decide to spend their hard earned money somewhere else.
Agreed think it’s too big of a jump. Make a bunch of PHEV, get people used to getting 40-50 miles a charge and used to plugging in but absolutely no issues if you want to take it wherever due to gas engine. Cross country vacation no problem. 400 mile trip no worries.
Too much invested in gas engines and infrastructure to try to go all BEV only imo
You may be right, but there other schools of thought. If the future is electric, at least for many vehicles, then car companies believe they have to catch the leader. Tesla is 5 to 10 years ahead in both EV technology and manufacturing with their new factories.
They will not sit around and allow slow moving companies to catch up. Right now, no other company even makes a profit on their EV business unit.
But who knows? Business can be funny...
premiums from third-party insurance companies "in some cases were unreasonably high."
Elon screw up by not designing in repairability when they design Tesla and stock them with enough parts. Most repairs from coworkers crash I heard of cost about 2x a gas car. Tesla selling its own insurance with subsidized cost make sense as it is "their own problems" and they can charge whatever they feel like, either at car purchase or insurance payment.
When they finally settle down for a standard battery that they can be swapped into multiple generation of new and old Tesla, then you bet the reuse / crash battery swap into older car with worn out battery business will boom.
You have repatedly stated the profitability and time frame info as quoted above.
Where are the analytics to support this? So GM, BMW, and all the rest are 5 - 10 years behind? Prove it.
I have to agree with you. It’s Tesla that is behind on styling and that is all the majority are going to care about.
Americans don’t favor 4 door compact cars and Tesla has been unable to produce something better. They will always have that part of the market which I call the equal of the VW Beetle. That isn’t a bad thing but they are about to and already starting to get run over by nicer SUV style and truck style designs.
This is what Americans want and at least at this point Tesla seems incapable of producing one.
I saw a gorgeous Hyundai SUV electric at a charging station just yesterday. I was almost curious enough to stop and talk to the guy about it. It was beautiful. The logo looked like Hyundai but that was my best guess.
By the end of the year and in 2024, show rooms across America looking to start coming out with their product lineup …
Teslas disadvantage is they don’t have any ICE vehicles to compete, nor do they have showrooms.
Legacy automakers have too many employees and have to contend with state franchise laws. Both of these issues have a political component to them. Over time their man hours/unit produced will reduce due to normal attrition. I don't know how they'll get around lost profits due to state franchise laws.
No legacy car company breaks out financials for their EV Business Units. Why is that?
Here is some support commentary. Bjorn Nyland does a lot of real world comparison analytics.
