Japan taking over the motorcycle industry

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: gman2304
'so obviously it's not the bike, it's the rider...'

^ au contraire ^ All one has to do is read your past posts on Harleys....and their owners.


I believe I've said many times in this thread that MANY, not ALL Harley riders are posers, and if you'd open your eyes, you'd see it too...unless you're one of them...

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Ok, grampi...now you're acting like a 4-year-old, covering your ears and hollering "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"


I don't know what you're talking about...I have no interest in owning a Harley...and I thought you were on my side? Are you a traitor?


Are you on LSD?


Apparently you are...or you're skitso...

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: dr2152
Hey grampi name the dealers where you found these prices? We need names.


Perry HD
Portage, MI

Buckeye HD
Dayton, OH

Powder Keg HD
Mason, OH

Worth HD
Kansas City, MO

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: gman2304
A link to the Harley website was posted showing the MSRP for a new Roadking, and he still doesn't believe it! Amazing!


Like I said, go to that dealership, or even just call them and ask how many they have at that price...I guarantee you the number will be 0....

 

[gman2304]

'I believe I've said many times in this thread that MANY, not ALL Harley riders are posers, and if you'd open your eyes, you'd see it too...unless you're one of them..'


^ I'm not talking only about your 'Harley and they're owners bashing' in just this thread. You have a 'history' of dislike for anything Harley. I've owned several Harleys over the last 40 plus years, and all were bought used. I've also owned Hondas, a 1975 Kawasaki 900 Z1 when I was 25 years old, several Yamaha dirt bikes, and a 2008 Suzuki DL1000 I bought new. I currently ride a 1995 Electraglide Ultra. My son still owns my old 1974 YZ250A model, the first year for the Yamaha YZ motocross bikes. I wear black Wolverine boots and a generic black leather jacket, a Fullmer 3/4 helmet with a pull down clear plastic visor when I ride. I do own a lightweight pair of Harley gloves I got from my Harley dealer with a gift certificate my son gave me for my birthday last year. I rode 150 miles last Sunday with 3 other Harleys and a friend of a friend who rode a Suzuki cruiser. The guy on the Suzuki agreed to ride in the rear.....to pick up any parts that fell off the Harleys. I'm probably the most 'uncool poser' you have ever seen.

 

[dr2152]

Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: dr2152
Hey grampi name the dealers where you found these prices? We need names.


Perry HD
Portage, MI

Buckeye HD
Dayton, OH

Powder Keg HD
Mason, OH

Worth HD
Kansas City, MO



I'll be at Worth for their Thursday concert. I called and they have bikes at MSRP. I'll check their prices when I'm there.

 

[BigCahuna]

Can't we all just get along?.,,,

 

[dr2152]

Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
Can't we all just get along?.,,,


It's grampi. So no He loves to hate Harley's

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: gman2304
'I believe I've said many times in this thread that MANY, not ALL Harley riders are posers, and if you'd open your eyes, you'd see it too...unless you're one of them..'


^ I'm not talking only about your 'Harley and they're owners bashing' in just this thread. You have a 'history' of dislike for anything Harley.


Guess what? I also dislike Chryslers. Does that make me a bad person? The reasons I don't like Harleys are the very same reasons most people like them. I've ridden probably 10 to 12 different Harley models over my motorcycle riding lifetime, including some of the newer ones as well, and they just don't do anything for me. Does that make me a bad person? I do like the sound of them, but that's where it ends for me. I like the thrill of a bike that gets up and goes when I twist the grip. That's not a Harley. I like a bike that handles well. That's not a Harley. Does that make me a bad person because Harleys don't float my boat? If so, then bash away, I deserve it...

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: dr2152
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: dr2152
Hey grampi name the dealers where you found these prices? We need names.


Perry HD
Portage, MI

Buckeye HD
Dayton, OH

Powder Keg HD
Mason, OH

Worth HD
Kansas City, MO



I'll be at Worth for their Thursday concert. I called and they have bikes at MSRP. I'll check their prices when I'm there.


I'll await your response until after you go there...

 

[gman2304]

'Guess what? I also dislike Chryslers. Does that make me a bad person?'

Yes it does! It makes you look like an overly opinionated person and your likes are the only things that matter!

 

[alarmguy]

Grampi, why dont you CALL those dealers YOURSELF?
Tell them you would like a ROAD KING around $20,000, call all the dealers listed, if they sold them all this week, they will be gald to get you one, just like a CAR DEALER or ANY dealer.

Why on EARTH would anyone else play into Grampi's garbage and spend your own time doing it? Let him do it, you all know and I MEAN all human beings in the United States of America who knows Harley Davidson knows that Road Kings sell for around $20,000 give or take a few thousand depending on options. Of course you can get a CVO Road King for Way more.

I bought my Harley from Smoky Mountain Harley back in 2014 new.
Here are some 2016 Road Kings, all priced at under $22,000 from the same dealer.
Grampi, if you don't believe me, CALL THEM YOURSELF, as any other human being in the United States knows you are wrong.
Here you go, have fun,
Five Road Kings for Sale on the page, Click here

Click here, go ahead and knock your socks off, CALL THEM yourself!

Here is one in OH, call them yourself and if out of stock, when you can get one

Buckeye, call them yourself

This is whole thread is just laughable and I am just as guilty for playing into Grampi's garbarge.
Bottom line is, if he wanted a Harley, which he clearly does NOT, he can buy a Road King plus a half a dozen other Harleys BRAND NEW for 20,000 and less. Unlike his claim of at least 30,000 thousand and closer to 40,000 ... *L* Let him do his own research, I myself could not shut up, his claims of $35,000 and telling me, the OWNER who bought a NEW 2014 Road King for 20,000 that it doesnt exist. Basically calling me a liar and everyone else who owns one!

and while we are at it Grampi??? Harleys SELL, so if your dealer doesnt have the bike you want, you may have to order it or wait for it to come in but the DEALER will be glad to hold it for you to purchase.

Maybe your just used to certain other bikes from certain other companies sitting on the showroom floor for a year or YEARS before selling. Unlike a Road King, which my local dealer tells me, as soon as they get them in, they go out the door.

I mean, they can only make them so fast and being Harley sells more motorcycles then ALL other makers combined over 600cc if your local dealer doesnt have one, they will be glad to try to get you one.

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: gman2304
'Guess what? I also dislike Chryslers. Does that make me a bad person?'

Yes it does! It makes you look like an overly opinionated person and your likes are the only things that matter!


So I'm not allowed to dislike anything or I am over-opinionated? My likes are the only thing that matter to me. Why is that a bad thing? You are still able to like you want...

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Grampi, why dont you CALL those dealers YOURSELF?
Tell them you would like a ROAD KING around $20,000, call all the dealers listed, if they sold them all this week, they will be gald to get you one, just like a CAR DEALER or ANY dealer.

Why on EARTH would anyone else play into Grampi's garbage and spend your own time doing it? Let him do it, you all know and I MEAN all human beings in the United States of America who knows Harley Davidson knows that Road Kings sell for around $20,000 give or take a few thousand depending on options. Of course you can get a CVO Road King for Way more.

I bought my Harley from Smoky Mountain Harley back in 2014 new.
Here are some 2016 Road Kings, all priced at under $22,000 from the same dealer.
Grampi, if you don't believe me, CALL THEM YOURSELF, as any other human being in the United States knows you are wrong.
Here you go, have fun,
Five Road Kings for Sale on the page, Click here

Click here, go ahead and knock your socks off, CALL THEM yourself!

Here is one in OH, call them yourself and if out of stock, when you can get one

Buckeye, call them yourself

This is whole thread is just laughable and I am just as guilty for playing into Grampi's garbarge.
Bottom line is, if he wanted a Harley, which he clearly does NOT, he can buy a Road King plus a half a dozen other Harleys BRAND NEW for 20,000 and less. Unlike his claim of at least 30,000 thousand and closer to 40,000 ... *L* Let him do his own research, I myself could not shut up, his claims of $35,000 and telling me, the OWNER who bought a NEW 2014 Road King for 20,000 that it doesnt exist. Basically calling me a liar and everyone else who owns one!

and while we are at it Grampi??? Harleys SELL, so if your dealer doesnt have the bike you want, you may have to order it or wait for it to come in but the DEALER will be glad to hold it for you to purchase.

Maybe your just used to certain other bikes from certain other companies sitting on the showroom floor for a year or YEARS before selling. Unlike a Road King, which my local dealer tells me, as soon as they get them in, they go out the door.

I mean, they can only make them so fast and being Harley sells more motorcycles then ALL other makers combined over 600cc if your local dealer doesnt have one, they will be glad to try to get you one.





Ok, since you seem he!! bent on making me out as a liar, I will go to a Harley dealership, take pics of the bikes (and their price tags) that are priced at $30K and higher that you claim don't exist, then I will post those pics in here...knowing you, you'll probably claim that I doctored the pics...

 

[grampi]

Ok, I just got back from Buckeye HD in Dayton, OH. I didn't take any pics because they didn't have price tags on any of their bikes. I hooked up with a sales rep who answered all of my questions.

They had 3 or 4 Road Kings that were priced under $20K. These were bare bones models and adding any options at all raised the price to well over $20K. The models that I have been seeing that are priced over $30K are the Road Glides, Street Glides, and CVOs. All of their Glides were over $30K, but they all had options that increased their price. The sales guy said the Glides can be had for less than $30K without the options. Every CVO they had was over $40K.

So I admit I was wrong. The prices I was claiming were for the wrong model. So flame away, I deserve it...

 

[alarmguy]

Originally Posted By: grampi
Ok, I just got back from Buckeye HD in Dayton, OH. I didn't take any pics because they didn't have price tags on any of their bikes. I hooked up with a sales rep who answered all of my questions.

They had 3 or 4 Road Kings that were priced under $20K. These were bare bones models and adding any options at all raised the price to well over $20K. The models that I have been seeing that are priced over $30K are the Road Glides, Street Glides, and CVOs. All of their Glides were over $30K, but they all had options that increased their price. The sales guy said the Glides can be had for less than $30K without the options. Every CVO they had was over $40K.

So I admit I was wrong. The prices I was claiming were for the wrong model. So flame away, I deserve it...


No problem, I am glad you got to talk to someone. No need to flame you, since you admitted you were wrong.

Just one thing, dont call an under $20,000 Road King "Bare Bones" no such thing.
Road King comes with everything provided in the links I provided. Only real option is ABS, two tone paint, both can be had for less then $21,000 add on luggage rack back rest if you want still would be less.
ALL come with 103 hi output engine, cruise control, 6 speed, bremo brakes, painted hard saddlebags ect, ect. anyway, you can see, the pricing provided in the Harley links I provided or at Harley Davidsons website can be had and is not a come on.

ALL CVOs are more money, its a custom bike = Custom Vehicle Operations = CVO

If you visit Harleys website, you can buy Street GLides and Road Glides for way under 30,000 as well, again, pricing on Harleys website.
Street Glides and Road Glides start at just under 21,000. It might take a little more work to find the cheaper ones simply because buyers of those bikes want every option under the sun and the buyers who dont want all those options buy the less expensive ones right up.

SO what I am saying, one last time, you can go to Harleys website, look up pricing and buy the bike you see, it MIGHT take a little more work to buy a less expensive street glide or road glide and I use the word might, strongly, simply because of demand. However, though not for me, many people do spend that extra few grand for the more options in the fairing models, but I myself can buy one for 23,000 and have seen them on the showroom floors of the dealers near me.

Road Glide Pricing

Street Glide pricing

All Harley Pricing

Ok, im really done with this thread )

 

[BigCahuna]

Boy, Honda id just giving those Honda's away. http://powersports.honda.com/2016/gold-wing.aspx

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Originally Posted By: grampi
Ok, I just got back from Buckeye HD in Dayton, OH. I didn't take any pics because they didn't have price tags on any of their bikes. I hooked up with a sales rep who answered all of my questions.

They had 3 or 4 Road Kings that were priced under $20K. These were bare bones models and adding any options at all raised the price to well over $20K. The models that I have been seeing that are priced over $30K are the Road Glides, Street Glides, and CVOs. All of their Glides were over $30K, but they all had options that increased their price. The sales guy said the Glides can be had for less than $30K without the options. Every CVO they had was over $40K.

So I admit I was wrong. The prices I was claiming were for the wrong model. So flame away, I deserve it...


No problem, I am glad you got to talk to someone. No need to flame you, since you admitted you were wrong.

Just one thing, dont call an under $20,000 Road King "Bare Bones" no such thing.
Road King comes with everything provided in the links I provided. Only real option is ABS, two tone paint, both can be had for less then $21,000 add on luggage rack back rest if you want still would be less.
ALL come with 103 hi output engine, cruise control, 6 speed, bremo brakes, painted hard saddlebags ect, ect. anyway, you can see, the pricing provided in the Harley links I provided or at Harley Davidsons website can be had and is not a come on.

ALL CVOs are more money, its a custom bike = Custom Vehicle Operations = CVO

If you visit Harleys website, you can buy Street GLides and Road Glides for way under 30,000 as well, again, pricing on Harleys website.
Street Glides and Road Glides start at just under 21,000. It might take a little more work to find the cheaper ones simply because buyers of those bikes want every option under the sun and the buyers who dont want all those options buy the less expensive ones right up.

SO what I am saying, one last time, you can go to Harleys website, look up pricing and buy the bike you see, it MIGHT take a little more work to buy a less expensive street glide or road glide and I use the word might, strongly, simply because of demand. However, though not for me, many people do spend that extra few grand for the more options in the fairing models, but I myself can buy one for 23,000 and have seen them on the showroom floors of the dealers near me.

Road Glide Pricing

Street Glide pricing

All Harley Pricing

Ok, im really done with this thread )


When I said "bare bones" I just meant with no options...

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
Boy, Honda id just giving those Honda's away. http://powersports.honda.com/2016/gold-wing.aspx


Goldwings have always been expensive, that's nothing new, but they also come with every option you could ever put on a bike...

 

[gman2304]

The base model Goldwing starts at $23,999. The top of the line Goldwing is $30,599 with the airbag system. Over $6,000 of 'options' between the base model and the airbag model.