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Originally Posted By: yvon_la
maybe HD use graphene strenghtened nylon hydraulic tensioner!nha
the guy said 20 000 miles so i suspect it is close to that .if you own a HD and the last hydraulic tensioner check was 20k might want to check it or make it check , but it would be nice to hear it here from HD engineer making the bike whats what or they should debunk those on YouTube


Harley says there is no requirement to check them. What guy said 20k?
 
Why has no one mentioned how butt ugly a Victory motorcycle is? Especially the vision and the cross country tour.
 
Originally Posted By: gman2304


Why has no one mentioned how butt ugly a Victory motorcycle is? Especially the vision and the cross country tour.


I'd say the old "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" applies.

I've heard people criticize the looks of both of my streetbikes. I've also heard insults or assumptions made about me based solely on which car or bike I'm using at the time.

Who cares? Certainly not I. I own what I do, because it pleases me. Some strangers opinion of me or my vehicles, just doesn't matter.
 
Originally Posted By: dr2152
Originally Posted By: yvon_la
maybe HD use graphene strenghtened nylon hydraulic tensioner!nha
the guy said 20 000 miles so i suspect it is close to that .if you own a HD and the last hydraulic tensioner check was 20k might want to check it or make it check , but it would be nice to hear it here from HD engineer making the bike whats what or they should debunk those on YouTube


Harley says there is no requirement to check them. What guy said 20k?


AS with all internet postings, people take what they read and do not check the facts for themselves. Not only that but there are 40 years of Harleys on the road of all different models.
No, none, zip, nothing, as far as requirement to check tensioner on my 2014 modern Road King.

Another laughable comment from grampi, he uses the words "blow up my engine" if I dont check the tensioner, some people will then start posting, you can blow up your engine if you dont check!
Which, is impossible to blow up my engine with a failed tensioner. Just amazing ... the power of the internet, people need to know, that nothing is true on the internet, unless they know it to be true and research.
 
Originally Posted By: gman2304


Why has no one mentioned how butt ugly a Victory motorcycle is? Especially the vision and the cross country tour.


No one mentioned it because its not a Harley. People only like to bash winners and that makes Harley the biggest target of all.
 
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Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Originally Posted By: dr2152
Originally Posted By: yvon_la
maybe HD use graphene strenghtened nylon hydraulic tensioner!nha
the guy said 20 000 miles so i suspect it is close to that .if you own a HD and the last hydraulic tensioner check was 20k might want to check it or make it check , but it would be nice to hear it here from HD engineer making the bike whats what or they should debunk those on YouTube


Harley says there is no requirement to check them. What guy said 20k?


AS with all internet postings, people take what they read and do not check the facts for themselves. Not only that but there are 40 years of Harleys on the road of all different models.
No, none, zip, nothing, as far as requirement to check tensioner on my 2014 modern Road King.

Another laughable comment from grampi, he uses the words "blow up my engine" if I dont check the tensioner, some people will then start posting, you can blow up your engine if you dont check!
Which, is impossible to blow up my engine with a failed tensioner. Just amazing ... the power of the internet, people need to know, that nothing is true on the internet, unless they know it to be true and research.


No, he is correct: the nylon from the shoes can block the oil pump pickup. In an extreme case, a failed tensioner can cause a valve to hit a piston.
 
Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
Still the King.,,,,,http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-california-highway-patrol-harley-davidson-20140519-story.html


Aren't those basically GIVEN to the CHP for publicity and marketing reasons?
 
'.the Sportster's 1200cc Evolution is a near-flawless engine.'


^ On 4/28/16 Jarlaxle said this about a Harley! ^ Did the sun rise in the west this morning ?
 
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: yvon_la
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnqazdpCpJo

ton of video on YouTube about these various issue!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrsPmx
408 degree! yep it isnt hot at all !hahahahaha

so sorry but i maintain what i said in my previous post! dont get a HD if you drive more then 1000 mile a year


No, just don't get a Twin Cam...the Sportster's 1200cc Evolution is a near-flawless engine.


Why? I have 70k with no problems. Buddy has more than that.
 
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Originally Posted By: dr2152
Originally Posted By: yvon_la
maybe HD use graphene strenghtened nylon hydraulic tensioner!nha
the guy said 20 000 miles so i suspect it is close to that .if you own a HD and the last hydraulic tensioner check was 20k might want to check it or make it check , but it would be nice to hear it here from HD engineer making the bike whats what or they should debunk those on YouTube


Harley says there is no requirement to check them. What guy said 20k?


AS with all internet postings, people take what they read and do not check the facts for themselves. Not only that but there are 40 years of Harleys on the road of all different models.
No, none, zip, nothing, as far as requirement to check tensioner on my 2014 modern Road King.

Another laughable comment from grampi, he uses the words "blow up my engine" if I dont check the tensioner, some people will then start posting, you can blow up your engine if you dont check!
Which, is impossible to blow up my engine with a failed tensioner. Just amazing ... the power of the internet, people need to know, that nothing is true on the internet, unless they know it to be true and research.


No, he is correct: the nylon from the shoes can block the oil pump pickup. In an extreme case, a failed tensioner can cause a valve to hit a piston.


How can a tensioner cause a valve to hit a piston? If you lose a tensioner you will probably damage the oil pump. You will have lower oil pressure so the hydraulic lifter will not open the valve as far.
 
Are you DELIBERATELY being dense? On the off chance you're serious: a failed tensioner can cause excessive slack in the cam chain. At best, you now have valve timing from Planet X and/or an oil system full of nylon bits. At worst...the chain jumps and you lunch the engine.

The Twin Cam is an inherently-flawed engine design.
 
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Are you DELIBERATELY being dense? On the off chance you're serious: a failed tensioner can cause excessive slack in the cam chain. At best, you now have valve timing from Planet X and/or an oil system full of nylon bits. At worst...the chain jumps and you lunch the engine.

The Twin Cam is an inherently-flawed engine design.


Here we are, another completely inaccurate post from someone who does not own a Harley, never has and has no knowledge of certain models. Makes a blanket statement like its fact, yet completely incorrect.

1. No matter what engine, no matter if its a motorcycle, car, truck. There will be a certain percentage that fail. Once again, Consumer Reports reports, major failures are even among brands of bikes. So any type of timing failure on any brand could lead to problems. Happens all the time, lets say on timing belts. A certain percentage of engines will fail as we as humans are not perfect and the cost of producing a perfect product would be impossible for people to buy.

2. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE for "an oil system to get full of nylon bits" on any late model Harley touring bike. Unlike metric bikes which share the Primary oil, Transmission oil and Engine oil all together as one.
Harley twin cams touring bikes DO NOT, this is obviously a superior design, just like a modern automobile or truck and not like an outdated metric bike.
Harley has separate engine oil, separate primary oil/fluid and separate transmission oil/fluid sumps just like any modern day automobile or truck. I think we can all agree Harley has a better system with separate sumps, I bet more costly to manufacture too.

It's quite clear from this record breaking thread, how someone can read through it and learn to do their own research and not base buying decisions based on nothing but hearsay.
 
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Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Are you DELIBERATELY being dense? On the off chance you're serious: a failed tensioner can cause excessive slack in the cam chain. At best, you now have valve timing from Planet X and/or an oil system full of nylon bits. At worst...the chain jumps and you lunch the engine.

The Twin Cam is an inherently-flawed engine design.


Here we are, another completely inaccurate post from someone who does not own a Harley, never has and has no knowledge of certain models. Makes a blanket statement like its fact, yet completely incorrect.

1. No matter what engine, no matter if its a motorcycle, car, truck. There will be a certain percentage that fail. Once again, Consumer Reports reports, major failures are even among brands of bikes. So any type of timing failure on any brand could lead to problems. Happens all the time, lets say on timing belts. A certain percentage of engines will fail as we as humans are not perfect and the cost of producing a perfect product would be impossible for people to buy.

2. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE for "an oil system to get full of nylon bits" on any late model Harley touring bike. Unlike metric bikes which share the Primary oil, Transmission oil and Engine oil all together as one.
Harley twin cams touring bikes DO NOT, this is obviously a superior design, just like a modern automobile or truck and not like an outdated metric bike.
Harley has separate engine oil, separate primary oil/fluid and separate transmission oil/fluid sumps just like any modern day automobile or truck. I think we can all agree Harley has a better system with separate sumps, I bet more costly to manufacture too.

It's quite clear from this record breaking thread, how someone can read through it and learn to do their own research and not base buying decisions based on nothing but hearsay.


Just to be absolutely clear: are you, then, claiming that the cam chains are NOT oiled by the engine oil?
 
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