Jackmaster Bench Top Filter

[jimmyjamesndt]

Here is my Jackmaster bench set up using a 1/2 reversible drill driving a Top 11-A cycloid oil pump, plastic tank is a cheap kerosene heater fuel tank. Spinning the drill at 650 rpm (according to Makita) it pushed room temperature 5w20 @25 psi at 3/4 of a litre per minute. Originally I built this set up to filter transmission oil, but that wound up with a Frantz on the car. The Jackmaster was bought for a Ford 2.3 4D55 diesel project that is a long way off, rebuilt engine in the garage and the rusty truck is long gone, so I figured...

why not put it to use? It was a fun project to put together and works better than I expected.

 

[Kira]

WHAT? No beakers of 'before' and 'after' oil?

 

[jimmyjamesndt]

WHAT? No beakers of 'before' and 'after' oil?

I thought of that after I ran the oil through, I did see a slight color change on the oils return, oil was low mile with short trips, I think the best thing the toilet paper did was to remove all the moisture that it may have held.

 

[jimmyjamesndt]

WHAT? No beakers of 'before' and 'after' oil?

Due to the huge and overwhelming response for my low budget do it yourself set up, maybe this is what may interest someone, you can do your whole fleet in one afternoon with one of these.

 

[ripcord]

You MUST give us MOARE!

Show us the experiments! used oil analysis would be a bonus!

 

[jimmyjamesndt]

I had to scrounge around the garage to find a litre of used oil, I found a 1/2 litre of 10w30 Penngrade 1 and a 1/2 liter of 5w20 Castrol from my catch pan, the 10w30 had a lot of particles from engine break in, it was drained form a Wix 51515, I found a roll of Costco Kirkland brand about the right size from the bathroom, not the usual paper I use, but seeing it was an experiment, I went all in, lol.

 

[jimmyjamesndt]

This mix of 10w30 break in filter oil had a lot of small particles you could see glistening under strong light, the 5w20 drain pan oil that been open and exposed to moisture was an ugly milky brown color, mixed together this was not a good oil to put back in anything, the filtered oil turned out a darker tint in color but was visibly clear, not murky looking as before.

 

[Blueshound]

Does your wife know you are using her drinking glasses in the shop?

 

[dnewton3]

NOTE; the OPs three threads (on the same day, regarding the same topic) are merged into this thread

 

[jimmyjamesndt]

Does your wife know you are using her drinking glasses in the shop?

I want beakers, flasks and a white lab coat for Christmas...thank you Santa.

 

[RalphPWood]

Here is my Jackmaster bench set up using a 1/2 reversible drill driving a Top 11-A cycloid oil pump, plastic tank is a cheap kerosene heater fuel tank. Spinning the drill at 650 rpm (according to Makita) it pushed room temperature 5w20 @25 psi at 3/4 of a litre per minute. Originally I built this set up to filter transmission oil, but that wound up with a Frantz on the car. The Jackmaster was bought for a Ford 2.3 4D55 diesel project that is a long way off, rebuilt engine in the garage and the rusty truck is long gone, so I figured... View attachment 191464View attachment 191465View attachment 191466View attachment 191467View attachment 191468why not put it to use? It was a fun project to put together and works better than I expected.

I like the simplicy of the Australian Jackmaster Classic. Started with the Frantz in 1963. Not my favorite. My favorites would be a toss up between the Gulf Coast junior the Jackmaster Classic and the Motor Guards. The Perma Cool 189 oil cooler sandwich adapter is working fine. In the 60s I used the Frantz 2 port sandwich adapters. The Perma Cools are more versitle. They work on lawn mowers. Its sad when you have to find the best ones. The owner of Gulf Coast filters started as a heavy duty diesel filter user on his oil field service boats. He dropped the little filters.

 

[RalphPWood]

I like the simplicy of the Australian Jackmaster Classic. Started with the Frantz in 1963. Not my favorite. My favorites would be a toss up between the Gulf Coast junior the Jackmaster Classic and the Motor Guards. The Perma Cool 189 oil cooler sandwich adapter is working fine. In the 60s I used the Frantz 2 port sandwich adapters. The Perma Cools are more versitle. They work on lawn mowers. Its sad when you have to find the best ones. The owner of Gulf Coast filters started as a heavy duty diesel filter user on his oil field service boats. He dropped the little filters.

The Great Value 1000 from Walmart works great. I like it better than Scott 1000 because its smaller. Dont have to unroll as much. Getting a good imprint at the bottom. Checked an old Gulf Coast element. 2 ply janitorial supply in a sock.

 

[RalphPWood]

The Great Value 1000 from Walmart works great. I like it better than Scott 1000 because its smaller. Dont have to unroll as much. Getting a good imprint at the bottom. Checked an old Gulf Coast element. 2 ply janitorial supply in a sock.

Wont mention any names but saw a before and after sample on YouTube. Black oil from a diesel to clear after. Any diesel owner knows the after sample was right out of a new bottle.

 

[jimmyjamesndt]

The Great Value 1000 from Walmart works great. I like it better than Scott 1000 because its smaller. Dont have to unroll as much. Getting a good imprint at the bottom. Checked an old Gulf Coast element. 2 ply janitorial supply in a sock.

No Scott 1000 or Great Value 1000 up here, not sure why, different market I guess.

 

[RalphPWood]

No Scott 1000 or Great Value 1000 up here, not sure why, different market I guess.

I was wondering why you guys were using over sized soft paper. At one time thats all we had here. I started getting the best 2 ply at office depot by the case. I have a lot of toilet paper filters. The Australian Jackmaster Classic is my best filter when using soft paper. Also the Gulf Coast junior. On one trip up in Canada I would check the paper in the motels. If I liked it I would check under the sink for one with a wrapper. The Frantz elements were reasonable but had a heavy duty core that didnt compress for the Motor Guard. When the 1000 sheets came it was Great. The Australian Jackmaster Classic on the Pontiac gets a new roll of Great Value 1000 from Walmart every 6.000 miles and a new quart of Walmart Super Tech. I probably wont change the full flow filter again because you said the Wix XP is synthetic. I drive mostly highway in the Dallas Texas area. You would probably need to change the toilet paper more often. The top loaders are less messy to change. I let air into the Australian Jackmaster Classic when the oil is still hot. Dont spill a drop. Dont have to use air pressure. Jackmaster is mounted high. At 65.000 miles the paper pleats in the standard Wix were rotten but still in one piece. I like the imprint of the larger seal in the filters.

 

[jimmyjamesndt]

I was wondering why you guys were using over sized soft paper. At one time thats all we had here. I started getting the best 2 ply at office depot by the case. I have a lot of toilet paper filters. The Australian Jackmaster Classic is my best filter when using soft paper. Also the Gulf Coast junior. On one trip up in Canada I would check the paper in the motels. If I liked it I would check under the sink for one with a wrapper. The Frantz elements were reasonable but had a heavy duty core that didnt compress for the Motor Guard. When the 1000 sheets came it was Great. The Australian Jackmaster Classic on the Pontiac gets a new roll of Great Value 1000 from Walmart every 6.000 miles and a new quart of Walmart Super Tech. I probably wont change the full flow filter again because you said the Wix XP is synthetic. I drive mostly highway in the Dallas Texas area. You would probably need to change the toilet paper more often. The top loaders are less messy to change. I let air into the Australian Jackmaster Classic when the oil is still hot. Dont spill a drop. Dont have to use air pressure. Jackmaster is mounted high. At 65.000 miles the paper pleats in the standard Wix were rotten but still in one piece. I like the imprint of the larger seal in the filters.

I did find White Swan 1000 up here, it's the most dense roll that I have bought, I did try it for a few kilometers in the Frantz, haven't used it since I went to the Motorguard with 4 1/2" wide 2 ply Camco paper, the White Swan is 4 1/4" or 4" wide, depending on where you buy it. The 4 1/2" wide Kirkland I did experiment with, only ran a roll on the bench mount, It is far too loose and inconsistant in the winding, it works the best in the bathroom, thats the great thing about toilet paper filters, you always have a use for the paper you buy that you decide not to use.

 

[RalphPWood]

I did find White Swan 1000 up here, it's the most dense roll that I have bought, I did try it for a few kilometers in the Frantz, haven't used it since I went to the Motorguard with 4 1/2" wide 2 ply Camco paper, the White Swan is 4 1/4" or 4" wide, depending on where you buy it. The 4 1/2" wide Kirkland I did experiment with, only ran a roll on the bench mount, It is far too loose and inconsistant in the winding, it works the best in the bathroom, thats the great thing about toilet paper filters, you always have a use for the paper you buy that you decide not to use.

I did like the Camco from the RV section at Walmart. Thanks for mentioning it.

 

[jimmyjamesndt]

I did like the Camco from the RV section at Walmart. Thanks for mentioning it.

I check those Camco rolls every time I walk down down that aisle, sometimes they are firm, then another time they are more loosely wound, it all depends on the manufacturing run it seems, anyway I am only keeping the firmest paper in my tp bypass stockpile, which is the 4-1/2" 2 ply Camco and the 4-1/4" 1 ply White Swan, I looked high and low in almost every store and many hotels all over Canada looking for the best paper I could reasonably come up with.

 

[RalphPWood]

I check those Camco rolls every time I walk down down that aisle, sometimes they are firm, then another time they are more loosely wound, it all depends on the manufacturing run it seems, anyway I am only keeping the firmest paper in my tp bypass stockpile, which is I-1/2" 2 ply Camco and the 4-1/4" 1 ply White Swan, I looked high and low in almost every store and many hotels all over Canada looking for the best paper I could reasonably come up with.

When I was checking motels it was 30 years ago .I have good choices here in the Dallas Texas area at Walmart. For awhile I was getting paper by the case from office Depot. I was removing thefilter elements from the M 30 compressed air filters and putting in toilet paper. The Motor Guard elements had a plastic core. It didnt melt but you had to dig it out in pieces. At one time I had 2 60 gallon trash bags and a 30 gallon drum full of Compressed air elements. I was using them for shop rags. The new white ones are like a Frantz element with the plastic core. Try to remove the core and the paper closes up. Ive seen them for up to 18 dollars. Of course they were all designed to use toilet paper. They of course dont recommend toilet paper now. The same as Frantz.

 

[RalphPWood]

When I was checking motels it was 30 years ago .I have good choices here in the Dallas Texas area at Walmart. For awhile I was getting paper by the case from office Depot. I was removing thefilter elements from the M 30 compressed air filters and putting in toilet paper. The Motor Guard elements had a plastic core. It didnt melt but you had to dig it out in pieces. At one time I had 2 60 gallon trash bags and a 30 gallon drum full of Compressed air elements. I was using them for shop rags. The new white ones are like a Frantz element with the plastic core. Try to remove the core and the paper closes up. Ive seen them for up to 18 dollars. Of course they were all designed to use toilet paper. They of course dont recommend toilet paper now. The same as Frantz.

When I used the Frantz toilet paper had a 1 1/2 inch core. When you started the engine the oil pressure pushed the paper down against the screen and core seal. That dont work with the bigger cores. Saw a guy do it right. He unrolled enough paper from the Scott 1000 for it to fit snug inside the canister. He put the Scott 1000 on the base pushed it down against the core seal and screen. Slid the canister down over the Scott and put on the clamp. Budget Gourmet. Actually none of the toilet paper filters require a center tube. Some of the core seals are barely large enough with the bigger tp cores