Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
AJ, the proof is really on you in this case. You're asking for someone to disregard the manufacturer recommendations and use their own car as a guinea pig to verify if your unproven assumptions will work or not. Who has more knowledge of these engines and their lubrication needs: you, a casual oil changer, or the manufacturer who built this engine?
Is it possible that mineral oil at short OCIs will work? It's possible. Am I going to sacrifice my car to find out? Not a chance in [censored]. I've got enough problems to worry about as it is without throwing another unknown into the mix.
That's just it. His faith in conventional oil is so strong that not only will he not use it himself, he expects someone else to risk their car to prove his theory.
The phrase put your money where your mouth is comes to mind.
Tell ya what AJ. send me the money to buy a new engine. http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BT53&mospid=47799&btnr=11_2226&hg=11&fg=05 Plus the money to pay for the labor. And I'll be your test dummy.
Since you claim that you know more than the people who actually own the cars, or those who actually design the engine and who know what it needs, you should have no problem doing this.
Do you have the courage of your convictions? The backbone? The cajones? Of course not.
About what I expect from someone who confuses that Castrol oil with Rotella.
Now as far as I can tell. The only thing I've got wrong was the Valvoline. Not really my fault, as there is a Valvoline that does work. BMWUSA should do a better job, but that's why I would defer to the knowledge of BMW owners.
Now, here is where we seperate the men from the boys. I state to the OP that using Mobil 1 0w-40 is the right oil. It meets all the specs, and, this is where that seperation comes in, "I" use it in the Zed. I'm not calling for volunteers. I have the cajones, spine, courage of my convictions to do it.
BTW, try looking for the BMW used oil analysis that are not posted here but in that section called Used Oil Analysis - Gasoline. That would be the proper place, would it not?
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1448812/
How about a Porsche? Look for this one "Mobil 1 0w40, 7400mi, Porsche 911 C4s 3.6L ."
What was that line? Oh yeah, I'm embarrased for you.
AJ, the proof is really on you in this case. You're asking for someone to disregard the manufacturer recommendations and use their own car as a guinea pig to verify if your unproven assumptions will work or not. Who has more knowledge of these engines and their lubrication needs: you, a casual oil changer, or the manufacturer who built this engine?
Is it possible that mineral oil at short OCIs will work? It's possible. Am I going to sacrifice my car to find out? Not a chance in [censored]. I've got enough problems to worry about as it is without throwing another unknown into the mix.
That's just it. His faith in conventional oil is so strong that not only will he not use it himself, he expects someone else to risk their car to prove his theory.
The phrase put your money where your mouth is comes to mind.
Tell ya what AJ. send me the money to buy a new engine. http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BT53&mospid=47799&btnr=11_2226&hg=11&fg=05 Plus the money to pay for the labor. And I'll be your test dummy.
Since you claim that you know more than the people who actually own the cars, or those who actually design the engine and who know what it needs, you should have no problem doing this.
Do you have the courage of your convictions? The backbone? The cajones? Of course not.
About what I expect from someone who confuses that Castrol oil with Rotella.
Now as far as I can tell. The only thing I've got wrong was the Valvoline. Not really my fault, as there is a Valvoline that does work. BMWUSA should do a better job, but that's why I would defer to the knowledge of BMW owners.
Now, here is where we seperate the men from the boys. I state to the OP that using Mobil 1 0w-40 is the right oil. It meets all the specs, and, this is where that seperation comes in, "I" use it in the Zed. I'm not calling for volunteers. I have the cajones, spine, courage of my convictions to do it.
BTW, try looking for the BMW used oil analysis that are not posted here but in that section called Used Oil Analysis - Gasoline. That would be the proper place, would it not?
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1448812/
How about a Porsche? Look for this one "Mobil 1 0w40, 7400mi, Porsche 911 C4s 3.6L ."
What was that line? Oh yeah, I'm embarrased for you.
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