Is anyone surprised about Tua Tagovailoa

[mk378]

Even a star player's NFL salary is not enough money to become rich like Rockefeller, by orders of magnitude.

 

[KJSmith]

They have a lot of "drain" on that also.
Managers, family, girls, ect.

I heard Emmit Smith say, "They all can't come along for the ride".

 

[gfh77665]

You sure know a lot about the NFL considering you "gave up" on it....

If you watch Houston TV stations like I do every night, they cover the Texans (and DeShawn Watson) quite a bit. Easy to understand.

I have not watched an NFL game in years, and I won't in the future. Don't care if you believe it or not.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Not all of them think in terms of generational wealth.

Very hard to plan for the future when many NFL players have an education of a 10th grader.

Sad but true.

They hafta have financial mouth pieces.

When Steve Young signed with the USFL Los Angeles Express, he signed a stupid contract that was back loaded. When the USFL folded, he got nothing.

 

[SC Maintenance]

This article covers the guaranteed contract. According to it, there is $124M on the guarantee if he can't play again.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-contract-injury-guarantees-after-concussion

 

[Hall]

if he can't play again

If he can't play or chooses not to play ?

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

If he can't play or chooses not to play ?

If he chooses not to play after being medically cleared he forfeits around $124M. It's the remaining portion of his guarantee.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Even a star player's NFL salary is not enough money to become rich like Rockefeller, by orders of magnitude.

Sure but the term "generational wealth" is in minds of many of these professional athletes who are in the position to receive huge paydays. Whether they get there is not the same as aspiring to get there.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Not all of them think in terms of generational wealth.

Very hard to plan for the future when many NFL players have an education of a 10th grader.

Sad but true.

The NFL has for the better part of 20 yrs had support system for player finances if they want it. It's part of their orientation their rookie year.

 

[bbhero]

I think the problem is if he retires he doesn't get any of it. He has been the meal ticket for his family for some time now and I'm sure the pressure is weighing on him. Concussions become easier to receive the more often you have them and the damage becomes progressively worse every time.

A very, very good post in my opinion…

Though not totally accurate in my opinion.

This neurological condition is a very large continuum where it has a vast array of possible outcomes.

Some guys can have multiple concussions and never have hardly any noticeable defect. Others can have several and then start to have small defects that can get worse over time. While others have more noticeable symptoms early on and then progressively get worse even at younger age like in the late 30s into their 40s.

You look at say Jim Mc Mahon who clearly has a lot more to deal with in his condition. Then the Bears starting linebacker Otis Wilson is pretty just fine and symptom free. While Dave Duerson clearly had a much more severe negative effect on his neurological functioning.

I believe this neurological condition is a whole lot like others. Like the one I have. Where the spectrum of possible outcomes is very vast and individually based.

 

[ctechbob]

Not all of them think in terms of generational wealth.

Very hard to plan for the future when many NFL players have an education of a 10th grader.

Sad but true.

Spot on.

A few years back a couple of our road deputies had a car chase with what turned out to be an active, although not well known, NFL player that played for UGA. Nice guy, just made a bad choice. We got to talking to him and he admitted that leaving college and entering the NFL was probably the worst choice he'd ever made in his life. He'd gotten a sign on bonus of 10 mil and had absolutely nothing to show for it. His family and friends had talked him out of some, he'd blown the rest. He said there's absolutely no support for kids coming in as far as planning and what life is like with that sort of windfall. Very similar, I expect, as to what sudden lottery winners go through.

-Edit- Found it

He didn't mention anything about NFL's counseling.

Funny aside, I do remember when he came in the back door I thought 'Ohh crap, I hope we don't have to fight this monster...its going to hurt a LOT' (6'8" 350 pounds)

https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/isaiah-wilson-arrest-gunpoint-titans-dolphins/

 

[Flashlightboy]

There is a lot of word play in these concussion v. retirement talks.

If he announces his retirement, unless there are contract terms that say differently, his salary ends. He still gets treatment and work comp benefits however.

If he says he's been advised by doctors to treat and recover, no matter how long and he says all decisions on retirement are very premature, he gets his salary.

He will be very well coached by his agent to never use the R word and the Fish will scrutinize every word he says looking for a way out.

 

[mk378]

If doctors agree it is a career-ending injury, the team still has to pay him but it no longer counts toward the salary cap. They can hire another QB.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Spot on.

A few years back a couple of our road deputies had a car chase with what turned out to be an active, although not well known, NFL player that played for UGA. Nice guy, just made a bad choice. We got to talking to him and he admitted that leaving college and entering the NFL was probably the worst choice he'd ever made in his life. He'd gotten a sign on bonus of 10 mil and had absolutely nothing to show for it. His family and friends had talked him out of some, he'd blown the rest. He said there's absolutely no support for kids coming in as far as planning and what life is like with that sort of windfall. Very similar, I expect, as to what sudden lottery winners go through.

-Edit- Found it

He didn't mention anything about NFL's counseling.

Funny aside, I do remember when he came in the back door I thought 'Ohh crap, I hope we don't have to fight this monster...its going to hurt a LOT' (6'8" 350 pounds)

https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/isaiah-wilson-arrest-gunpoint-titans-dolphins/

There's a program for players. It has been available for over 20 years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Player's_Association_Financial_Registration_Program

http://nfl-pe-stage.azurewebsites.net/life/articles/money-management/

https://nfldraftdiamonds.com/2024/03/nfl-rookies-invest/

 

[Dave Hess]

1 more hard hit and he needs to retire.

He’s already has some damage from all the years playing since high school.

 

[John Galt]

might be all the macho, gladiator mentality partially at work. I not a woussy!

 

[Hall]

If he chooses not to play after being medically cleared he forfeits around $124M. It's the remaining portion of his guarantee.

Every doctor in the world will tell him to stop playing except for doctors hired by the team.

 

[Hall]

The NFL has for the better part of 20 yrs had support system for player finances if they want it. It's part of their orientation their rookie year.

Yeap but that's all the NFL can do though, is "advise". They can't stop a player's spending habits. It's all on them.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Every doctor in the world will tell him to stop playing except for doctors hired by the team.

I believe if they don't clear him then they have to pay him.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Yeap but that's all the NFL can do though, is "advise". They can't stop a player's spending habits. It's all on them.

Well of course but the resources are there. Not everyone is going to take advantage of just like the rest of the working population.