Is anyone surprised about Tua Tagovailoa

If he chooses not to play after being medically cleared he forfeits around $124M. It's the remaining portion of his guarantee.

He won't. The retire stuff is pure speculation. There is also I think an injury settlement option as well where both sides part ways and Tua doesn't get the full contract but Miami is off-the-hook for a large portion of the money....
 
Tiger Woods left beautiful Stanford U in Palo Alto after his junior year. Let’s just say he couldn’t afford to go to college anymore.
At least in his case, the sport he's playing is very, very unlikely to contribute to career-ending injury, CTE, etc though.
 
I gave up the woke NFL, but can't help but see the news. The Dolphins paying Tua is WAY smarter than the Browns paying a quarter Billlion and high draft picks for DeShawn Watson. Watson facing even more charges in Houston soon.
There are lots of legit reasons people feel like giving up on many sports the last decade or so.
Nothing is really very surprising about the Tua situation or even the D. Watson situation.
 
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Tua is a good person and I hope he has a speedy recovery, he's also a pretty good QB. I get Tua is not on Mahomes, Burrow, or Josh's level, but I fault the pretender d-bag Miami coach more than Tua on his gimmicky NCAA-type schemes that only seem to work against teams with a losing record. Miami cannot beat any good teams and feast on the sub-.500, but that isn't Tua's fault, not entirely. Was he worth the money? Probably not, but for all the skill position talent he has it's the trash O-line that kills Miami and that's at the feet of the GM and owner, not Tua.
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Every doctor in the world will tell him to stop playing except for doctors hired by the team.
I'm sure the players' union has considered that and has put in the contract a process for selecting the doctor.

That was the scandal 2 years ago when this same player on the same team showed obvious concussion symptoms on the field, but the team doctor and other staff let him keep playing. This led to the league making significant changes to the acute (during the game) "concussion protocol."
 
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That was the scandal 2 years ago when this same player on the same team showed obvious concussion symptoms on the field, but the team doctor and other staff let him keep playing.
I was actually watching that game and it was outrageous that they let him back in. The doctor that cleared him to continue playing was actually the "independent" doctor that the league hires, not the team's, and the player's union got him fired because of this incident.
 
I thought the NFL was most concerned about losing the pop Warner moms-lose them the game is heading down Boxings road.
Gladiators beware
 
Just to add to my comment about one of Tua's previous concussions, as I mentioned I was watching that game and when it happened, I had my wife watch it. As I recall, this was when he fell to the ground and his hands made that motion like you're squeezing a small exercise ball (not sure how else to describe it). She's a nurse and immediately said it's a brain-related injury and then was pretty much horrified that he came back in to play a short time later.
 
But why is a QB running headfirst into a tackle?
This is the only relevant question.

In this day and age, QBs a little babies in diapers, running amuck with an eternity to throw the ball. LONG gone are the days of Steve Young, or Randall Cunningham, who could run the ball, and get hit and get back up. These guys never played that way, never had to contend with getting slammed.

The media has vomited out "Tua got hit by Hamlin" and got a concussion. This is absolutely not true. He put his head down, and ran into the guy.

So why did he do it?

1.) stupid
2.) thought they could do it, stupid
3.) did it on purpose to get hurt

either way gotta give it to the guy for effort.
 
This is the only relevant question.

In this day and age, QBs a little babies in diapers, running amuck with an eternity to throw the ball. LONG gone are the days of Steve Young, or Randall Cunningham, who could run the ball, and get hit and get back up. These guys never played that way, never had to contend with getting slammed.

The media has vomited out "Tua got hit by Hamlin" and got a concussion. This is absolutely not true. He put his head down, and ran into the guy.

So why did he do it?

1.) stupid
2.) thought they could do it, stupid
3.) did it on purpose to get hurt

either way gotta give it to the guy for effort.
Um., have you ever watched Josh Allen?
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BTW Steve Young quit early and Cunningham had no knees left and became a pocket passer in his last seasons....

Hopefully you didn't have to walk up hill both ways to school in cardboard shoes when you were that age....

P.S.: Young retired in 1999 due to successive concussions....
 
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Um., have you ever watched Josh Allen?
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BTW Steve Young quit early and Cunningham had no knees left and became a pocket passer in his last seasons....

Hopefully you didn't have to walk up hill both ways to school in cardboard shoes when you were that age....

P.S.: Young retired in 1999 due to successive concussions....
Point was, they play in a different time. There are always exception to the rule. Today the lastest rushing QB, was Cam Newton close to the guys I mention earlier.

If this was 20 years ago, we would not be having this conversation.
Cunningham had no knees left and became a pocket passer in his last seasons....
but he made it to those late years, and no discussion of whether he should quit
Hopefully you didn't have to walk up hill both ways to school in cardboard shoes when you were that age....
what age?
 
Point was, they play in a different time. There are always exception to the rule. Today the lastest rushing QB, was Cam Newton close to the guys I mention earlier.

If this was 20 years ago, we would not be having this conversation.

but he made it to those late years, and no discussion of whether he should quit

what age?

There's not a lot of "rushing" QB's but the best ones are pretty mobile and will run in a pinch. Mahomes is probably the best example, with Kyler Murray and a few others pretty quick and mobile, but only run in a pinch,

Josh is a running QB even though the team doesn't want him to as much. He even said in a preseason Pressor that he "can't make a living running all of the time..." But he's like Frank the tank hitting a beer funnel when the games start and cannot help himself. Lamar is probably the closest to him in that respect. I think there is an argument to be made that most QB's are more likely to be injured if they are blindsided in the pocket as opposed to knowing when they are gonna take a hit. Josh did get a minor hand injury on the non-throwing one when he flopped into the endzone in week 1, but I doubt that will be a problem by next week.

One of the ESPN guys said Tua's body is not the type that will last long in the NFL because he can't take the punishment game in and out. Maybe, but I think most of Tua's other concussions were being hit in a collapsing pocket, but not sure. Upon further review, 2 other concussions were caused by sacks in the pocket or a hit after release. One was against the Bills the other, worse one was the Bengals....
 
Mahomes is probably the best example
the best of a bunch of wussies sure. Plus they are afraid to touch their golden boy in todays fixed NFL league. I have seen countless video of defenders meaningfully avoiding Mahomes, even when he was not going for the slide (which should be done away with BTW).

He will three peat this year watch
 
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