Which is what a ton of today's buyers want to drive. Push the start button, select drive and go.
Plenty of other options for buyers who want something different.
Interesting article by Toyota President that reflects like view of many BITOGERS
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Plenty of other options for buyers who want something different.
Here is a good example of why depending too much on one kind of energy source can be a bad idea. I drew two blue circles around the location of two transformer stations. Each station controls 1/2 the power to the lower mainland and one of them controls power to Vancouver Island and the capital city of Victoria. If anything was to happen to those two transformer stations or to the pylons that feed them, all EV owners had better hope they had generators and fuel stored at home.
I don't know many anti-EV people, but I do know a lot of anti "EV only" people and many of their claims are valid. Some of those people even own EVs.
Except in the styling department.
I owned a Toyota years back but would struggle to find a current model that wasn't over stylised. They are trying too hard to throw off the boring image but the designs they produce are to my eyes just tacky.
Style is a personal judgement. Interesting note on that, take a square box, put in four doors and add an open box on the back and Americans go Gaga and buy them with big bucks.
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I am not an "anti BEVer", but I won't personally purchase one. The price of admission is too high and their life span is too short... I keep my vehicles until they are worn out and economically un-repairable (or wrecked). Furthermore, the parts/repair industry and charging infrastructure are not conveniently available and won't be for some time. Anybody here ever try to get an out-of-warranty Tesla repaired? How did that go?
You know what? I'm a motor head. I've been car crawling since I was 10yrs old. I made VW bugs from pieces. I bought the Borman 6 with 150 K on it and drove it for another 200K. I daily drove it for 12yrs . It ALWAYS made it home under its own power. But that level of maintenance came at the cost of many a weekend. I have 2 '16 Camrys that have been nearly perfect for 5 yrs/ 80K and 5/yrs/60K. Just normal up keep stuff and darn little of that. Are they a perfect car? No way,but they haven't broken yet either. 
For the majority of the world it is either unaffordable or the infrastructure doesn't exist, so its not even a viable option for most customers
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But yet Biden's EV team had a summit and made a conscious decision to exclude Tesla. And the fact of Tesla has open patents that are one factor that steers me toward a political motivation. I haven't made up my mind yet as there isn't enough info on the overall viability to the consumer OR the environment as a whole. I grew up on a farm in New England so I care. Those of us that do care are willing to see how it shakes out but it's beginning to smell like a rat. And by a rat, it may have been altruistic in infancy (and I don't mean the EV prior to Henty Ford way back when) but politics is involved and that is historically where just about anything does downhill.
I've listened to a podcast where data was presented concerning Canada. It provided data indicating if Canada meets all it's environmental goals by 2030 those gains will be far offset by China alone in one single year. Anyone who has a basic knowledge of historical governments will immediately realize my people suffer by reducing their quality of life for altruistic endeavors while other countries take full economic and environmental advantage. Hey, historically what could go wrong? Proven by one single country, Germany, of about 180 countries worldwide. They aren't alone. Ditching nuclear; in bed with Russia for LNG and screwed now; burning their forests to survive.
We don't have the solution just yet but it can be found. Instead, we get ridiculous policies when world leaders meet to "solve" the world's problems. Where is the G8 committee of scientists, backed by G8 $$$ bringing ALL our top scientists together to find the solution? Groups like this exist but they are not de-politicized as they should be and not funded without political parameters. So, us average Joes bear the B S while worldwide politicians continue down the same ol path.
I'm still not anti-EV as I see it as a great option in many urban environments. But again, where is Gov't leading the way? Police vehicles, garbage trucks, metro busses? They are out there but limited. EV's have been around for plenty of time for Gov't to show the way and project the light for us to follow; yet the infrastructure is lacking even in higher-end areas where I live.
Edit to add: Whole lotta soap box there gents....my main point of all that, related to your post was that Toyota is almost always late to the party but brings a keg to keep it going long term. Toyota hasn't jumped in both feet into EV. There is a reason folks. Time will tell.
Only if we're all joining hands and building a better, MUCH more powerful green electrical infrastructure to power all those EVs getting promoted as "the world's saviors". With the way the West's hydro is going, combined with TX's inability to do much of anything in the still cold of winter, we got a LONG way to go before ICE is replaced by all EV...
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I was going to say the same thing, Christ, I think they were the last major brand to go mainstream with direct injection (if I’m not mistaken).
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Toyota is just waiting in the bushes while they ramp up battery production and other unique items. The main reason I would not buy a Pure EV is most of them are butt ugly. There are some exceptions. It would not surprise me that by the time the EV infrastructure is in place, Toyota will be ready to produce a first class lower cost EV that Tesla keeps promising.
That is all well and good for the many like yourself who get satisfaction from figuring problems out and spending the time to maintain mechanical equipment in a top notch fashion. Others do not have the time, aptitude or willingness to do any of that work but can easily enough afford to pay others to do it for them. And the one last group only fixes things after they break.
Electric is the future for to the plain Jane average consumer. That future however, is not now. It will be at some point. You can't rush what takes time.
Highly doubtful. You guys simply do not realize how much resources and raw materials are needed for battery production. Now, scale it up to anything even remotely approaching ICE vehicle production and it’s not hard to realize it is not sustainable.
But then again, the future is planned for an average Joe/Jane to own nothing and be happy. So EV may happen, but vehicle ownership will look nothing like today.
Yep, the goal is basically to make vehicles unobtainable except for the very wealthy, who will then make money off leasing them through subscription services and mass transit programs in the name of "saving the climate".
Not really...battery technology is ever evolving and millions are already made daily for electronics. There is no shortage or sustainability problem other than what is manufactured to promote a fear culture.
If I didn't have to own a car to commute from A-B that would be great. I'll enjoy a classic for when I want to drive.
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