Intake deposits from EGR and E85 use

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My only real concern with a catch can would be in regards to how it 'may' impact the operation of the PCV valve itself(of course if at all, perhaps fail install of catch can)?
 
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
The Mfrs will not put a device on a car that has to be emptied every month or two by the average civilian.
THAT is why there is no catch can system on most cars!

Needed? What does that mean?
A cleaner intake, TB, idle air motor, valves, and combustion chambers are enough for me to warrant it's use.

Needed? Why not use a crankcase vent tube like in the old days? Is a PCV system needed?

What is best is the real question.
And things are absolutely better with a catch can.




In your opinion. The sheer numbers don't lie.

The OVERWHELMING majority of cars have all the horrible ills you imagine, yet no catch can. I have two different engines with them, btw.

Sorry, but the truth is they are NOT needed or they'd be standard equipment.

And they would not require much, there would simply be a dashboard warning light like a 'washer fluid low' light.
 
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Well, I just found out that the 3.6 Pentastar engine in my new 300 doesn't even have EGR.
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
The Mfrs will not put a device on a car that has to be emptied every month or two by the average civilian.
THAT is why there is no catch can system on most cars!

Needed? What does that mean?
A cleaner intake, TB, idle air motor, valves, and combustion chambers are enough for me to warrant it's use.

Needed? Why not use a crankcase vent tube like in the old days? Is a PCV system needed?

What is best is the real question.
And things are absolutely better with a catch can.




In your opinion. The sheer numbers don't lie.

The OVERWHELMING majority of cars have all the horrible ills you imagine, yet no catch can. I have two different engines with them, btw.

Sorry, but the truth is they are NOT needed or they'd be standard equipment.

And they would not require much, there would simply be a dashboard warning light like a 'washer fluid low' light.


Does an OE vapor chamber count?
 
Originally Posted By: G-MAN
Well, I just found out that the 3.6 Pentastar engine in my new 300 doesn't even have EGR.
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Nope. Neither does my 2006 6.1. The exact same recirculation of a little exhaust is easily handled with valve timing.

When you have high miles it will be a relief to never see the MIL come on for a stuck EGR valve.
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
A catch can will 'catch' some on any car.


Interesting. I think the quotes are quite appropriate. It seems to me that a catch can creates a place where the crankcase ventilation velocity and temperature drop precipitously (no pun intended), and that the catch can is possibly creating something that otherwise wouldn't exist - namely, precipitate. Yes, plenty of reports that catch cans remove oil film from other areas of the engine, but wouldn't the real test of its efficacy include multiple Blackstone or other oil analysis?
 
Originally Posted By: G-MAN
SteveSRT8 said:
That oil, plus condensate, plus blowby, plus EGR = gunk in unwashed intake runners from port-injected or DI engines.


Does anybody else recall seeing an article about Audis that seemed to indicate one of the domestic manufacturers had designed-in countermeasures?

And if memory serves, isn't one of the primary causes of intake valve deposits the fuel temperature at injection?
 
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