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Surely you could drive to the Atlantic Ocean and pulled one out for less. j/k
Rumor is MCd's fish does not come from the Atlantic ocean... in fact it may not come from an ocean. I know when I was a kid they advertised cod... but from what I have heard, it is a compilation of many fish parts and then restructured to resemble fish....
 
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Everyone talks about higher minimum wage being the answer but many including some of our politicians fail to take into consideration that if the local burger joint/Walmart/etc. is forced to raise wages from say an average of $10/hr. to an average of $15/hour that they're not going to take the loss and the increased pay is going to be passed on to the consumer through their product costs, so, although raising federal minimum wage would help a little it's not going to be the answer to the problems of all. If wages go up across the board so is the cost of consumer goods. When I got injured in Jan. 2000 I was making $18/hr working construction and could get nearly unlimited overtime if I wanted. When I had to take a part time job at Walmart my starting pay was $6.50/hr if I recall correctly. Sometimes life changes mean having to make considerable changes to your normal life style and spending habits. When I worked for Walmart if you were to get more hours during the pay period than they had you scheduled for you were expected to take off early before the end of the pay period so they didn't have to pay overtime.
Higher minimum wage is a great idea. People making minimum wage will spend every penny on what they need. That stimulates the economy, creates jobs and promotes the general welfare. Happy people commit less crimes.

Prices at Walmart, fast food, etc are set by the market. Plus, minimum wage people shop at Wally World and Mickey D's. Their business will improve based on higher volume.

Minimum wage earners buy very few expensive cars, etc.
 
Rumor is MCd's fish does not come from the Atlantic ocean... in fact it may not come from an ocean. I know when I was a kid they advertised cod... but from what I have heard, it is a compilation of many fish parts and then restructured to resemble fish....

I'm sorry, but anytime someone mentions a Filet-o-Fish all I can think of is this ridiculous commercial. Hilarious!

 
It has varied but it's Alaska Pollock. People are always spreading rumors that aren't true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filet-O-Fish
Marketers at MCD's are awesome and know just how to word stuff to make one thing seem like another.

MCD's markets say their hamburgers contain 100 percent beef. Not sure what they are saying.... they don't contain pork is guess.... but they say 100 percent beef yet this stuff is in their "100 percent beef".

Pink slime (also known as lean finely textured beef or LFTB, finely textured beef, boneless lean beef trimmings or BLBT, or pink goop) is a meat by-product used as a food additive to ground beef and beef-based processed meats, as a filler, or to reduce the overall fat content of ground beef.

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Marketers at MCD's are awesome and know just how to word stuff to make one thing seem like another.

MCD's markets say their hamburgers contain 100 percent beef. Not sure what they are saying.... they don't contain pork is guess.... but they say 100 percent beef yet this stuff is in their "100 percent beef".

Pink slime (also known as lean finely textured beef or LFTB, finely textured beef, boneless lean beef trimmings or BLBT, or pink goop) is a meat by-product used as a food additive to ground beef and beef-based processed meats, as a filler, or to reduce the overall fat content of ground beef.
Right, but they don't use pink slime in their burgers. They used to, but not for a while.

https://www.cnet.com/news/pink-slime-in-burgers-mcdonalds-hires-former-mythbuster-to-find-out/
 
Right, but they don't use pink slime in their burgers. They used to, but not for a while.

https://www.cnet.com/news/pink-slime-in-burgers-mcdonalds-hires-former-mythbuster-to-find-out/
Subway says like things about their chicken breast sandwich. Canadian scientists say different.

I would trust what McDonalds states about as much as I would trust what a private equity banker says when they are buying a American corporation using junk bonds as the source of financing the deal.
 
Subway says like things about their chicken breast sandwich. Canadian scientists say different.

I would trust what McDonalds states about as much as I would trust what a private equity banker says when they are buying a American corporation using junk bonds as the source of financing the deal.
Are you sure it's the chicken breast? I believe it's the Tuna, no tuna detected in their tuna but that could be due to the fact it's so highly processed.

McDonalds is way further up the chain in terms of a reputation to protect than Subway. They're part of the Fortune 500, Subway is not.

It all goes back to evidence. There's no evidence that it's not what they claim it is. On the other hand, there's evidence that the Subway footlong wasn't really foot long. And there is a lab that claims that they couldn't detect tuna dna in the Subway tuna.

But we're pretty far from talking about inflation here. Prices haven't really changed much at McDonalds, soda still $1.
 
Everyone talks about higher minimum wage being the answer but many including some of our politicians fail to take into consideration that if the local burger joint/Walmart/etc. is forced to raise wages from say an average of $10/hr. to an average of $15/hour that they're not going to take the loss and the increased pay is going to be passed on to the consumer through their product costs, so, although raising federal minimum wage would help a little it's not going to be the answer to the problems of all. If wages go up across the board so is the cost of consumer goods.
People never think about the consquenses of higher wages and even their use of credit cards. That Arby's I talked about paying $9.60 for a meal is offering $12 per hour to get employees. Look at the merchants cost to accept credit cards, not debit in this case. You know those credit cards that offer rewards? Well it isn't the credit card company paying those rewards it's the merchant that you just used your credit card at.

In the old days I use to pay at most 1.9-2.0% merchant fees each month on my credit card sales. So if I had $20K in credit card sales my fees all together would be around $400 a month. Today with those rewards cards that run anywhere between 3.5% and upto 4.2% that same $20K in sales can get my fees up near $750 per month. Debt cards are a minimal expense at .25 a transaction. Imagine a grocery store that works on roughly a 3.0% profit margin and the hit they take with the volume in credit cards they see?
 
McDonalds is way further up the chain in terms of a reputation to protect than Subway. They're part of the Fortune 500, Subway is not.
Subway is privately owned. Likely Fortune 500 if they were publicly owned.

Today's McDonalds is very far from the McDonalds of your youth. I paid $1.79 plus tax for a cup of coffee at a MCD in Louisiana two weeks ago. McDonalds bathrooms as filthy, many of their restaurants are dirty and trashy.... Do an audit of 20 MCDs and you will be shocked.

All I can say is Glory Days when it comes to McDonalds..

""

I think I'm going down to the well tonight
And I'm going to drink till I get my fill
And I hope when I get old I don't sit around thinking about it
But I probably will
Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
A little of the glory of, well time slips away
And leaves you with nothing mister but
Boring stories of glory days

Glory days well they'll pass you by
Glory days in the wink of a young girl's eye
Glory days, glory days
 
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Subway is privately owned. Likely Fortune 500 if they were publicly owned.

Today's McDonalds is very far from the McDonalds of your youth. I paid $1.79 plus tax for a cup of coffee at a MCD in Louisiana two weeks ago. McDonalds bathrooms as filthy, many of their restaurants are dirty and trashy.... Do an audit of 20 MCDs and you will be shocked.

All I can say is Glory Days when it comes to McDonalds..
In terms of volume per store, a McDonalds does a lot more per store than Subway. McDonalds also has a lot of franchise stores and many of those stores are owned by one owner so you may be running into a group that's not doing a good job of maintaining them. The bathrooms vary in quality between locations. The ones in the city with lots of homeless they usually close or are locked, the ones in the suburbs are fine. I'm not surprised they're filthy though, probably can't find enough employees.
 
In terms of volume per store, a McDonalds does a lot more per store than Subway. McDonalds also has a lot of franchise stores and many of those stores are owned by one owner so you may be running into a group that's not doing a good job of maintaining them. The bathrooms vary in quality between locations. The ones in the city with lots of homeless they usually close or are locked, the ones in the suburbs are fine. I'm not surprised they're filthy though, probably can't find enough employees.
Just left a position with a 40 state territory. The filth of McDonalds bathroom is nationwide. I am seeing the new McDonalds bathrooms being designed to do everything to discourage their use. Has nothing to do with Urban, suburban, or rural. First time I had a wake up call on McDonalds was on or about summer of 2007 in rural Montana. Place was filthy in every imaginable way.

McDonalds quit trying to improve the quality of its food last century. The McDLT is the poster child of that. MCD made the packaging the reason to buy that burger- not the burger itself. The MCDLT failed as the purchaser actually saw the burger, it the burger itself was far from inviting (despite the artwork in the picture below).

Not to be a jerk, but not to long ago Sears stock was flying high, all the while they were being passed by from the like of HD, Lowes, Target, Wal Mart, and Amazon.........
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Just left a position with a 40 state territory. The filth of McDonalds bathroom is nationwide. I am seeing the new McDonalds bathrooms being designed to do everything to discourage their use. Has nothing to do with Urban, suburban, or rural. First time I had a wake up call on McDonalds was on or about summer of 2007 in rural Montana. Place was filthy in every imaginable way.

McDonalds quit trying to improve the quality of its food last century. The McDLT is the poster child of that. MCD made the packaging the reason to buy that burger- not the burger itself. The MCDLT failed as the purchaser actually saw the burger, it the burger itself was far from inviting (despite the artwork in the picture below).

Not to be a jerk, but not to long ago Sears stock was flying high, all the while they were being passed by from the like of HD, Lowes, Target, Wal Mart, and Amazon.........
It is strange how they're still #1 in terms of a burger chain but everyone says their burgers aren't that good. They keep changing things, I liked their Angus 1/3 burger but they got rid of them. Whatever they do well, it's not their burgers, being fast and everywhere might be good enough. To be fair, lots of other chain bathrooms are even worse. It's all relative.

As for Sears, the writing was on the wall a long time ago. I used to buy their appliances all the time, even had a go to sales guy. But years ago they got rid of free delivery so while their prices were the same as HD or Lowes, the extra charge for delivery made it more expensive. My go to store is Lowes now as they can deliver the next day if it's in stock in the store. With the pandemic it's more like 2-3 days but better than HD at 2-3 weeks.
 
It is strange how they're still #1 in terms of a burger chain but everyone says their burgers aren't that good. They keep changing things, I liked their Angus 1/3 burger but they got rid of them. Whatever they do well, it's not their burgers, being fast and everywhere might be good enough. To be fair, lots of other chain bathrooms are even worse. It's all relative.


I have been to McDonalds in the past both here and overseas. The overseas locations were always clean, both in the dining area and the restrooms. The US locations were not as clean.

I always ordered the Quarter Pounder with Cheese. Whether in the US or Philippines or Singapore or Japan it was the same. Same for the french fries. It was a dependable meal.
 
Higher minimum wage is a great idea. People making minimum wage will spend every penny on what they need. That stimulates the economy, creates jobs and promotes the general welfare. Happy people commit less crimes.

Prices at Walmart, fast food, etc are set by the market. Plus, minimum wage people shop at Wally World and Mickey D's. Their business will improve based on higher volume.

Minimum wage earners buy very few expensive cars, etc.

False in many material understandings of economics. I have many economics degrees.

Minimum wage should be totally abolished. It HARMS low wage earners in many ways.
1. It drives up costs and overhead, which are either passed onto the consumer in higher prices, or businesses stop hiring low wage earners and replace them with automation.

1A. Passed on costs. Ever notice prices increase and/or package sizing or quality decreases? Much of that is due to the increase is operating expenses. Money isn't free. To compete, businesses have few options. A) Cut costs or B) Raise prices. Raising prices eats away at all perceived gains in minimum wages.

1B. Cut costs includes lowering quality (meat substitutes, lots of food fillers, overseas production, etc.), or sizes (ever notice many product sizes are much smaller today?) Or hiring freezes, firing people, cutting benefits, automation, sending jobs overseas, etc.

2A. Killing the goose that laid the golden egg = Automation. This is what killed the Detroit auto industry. Once the 5th most prosperous and desirable US city, with some of the wealthiest zip codes in the entire US, unions demanding unreasonably high wages for workers forced the auto industry to automate. This ended low skill and high paid work in the industry, and gutted Detroit. Detroit is now one of the least desirable and poorest cities in the nation. You can thank unions and greedy demands for too much money. This is playing out around the nation, as stores move to self-checkout and self-bagging, killing off millions of low-skill cashier and bagger jobs. Fast food restaurants are also moving to automation for ordering. Self-driving cars will likely be replacing driver services (taxis, uber, etc.). The trucking industry will probably be next when self-driving truck technology arrives, and will destroy one of the largest good paying careers for men. In the aggregate, this harms our nation.

2B. Closing businesses, or exporting jobs. Congratulations NAFTA, you destroyed the American working class by sending much of our factory jobs overseas so we could buy cheaper products. Entire American industries were killed because workers wanted too much money for low-skill work. Businesses answered by shutting factories and plants, and sending jobs overseas and investing in China and Asia and S. America, etc.

3. Harms higher income brackets. The tier of employees who have worked hard for a long time to get merit pay increases, or have careers in the lower and middle classes, do not typically get commensurate pay raises. So a minimum wage increase, actually HURTS these wage earners. Suddenly, they lose ~5% of their buying power when min wage goes up 5% and all costs go up 5%. These increases eat away at the lower and middle working classes the worst. For example, Susy starts at Walmart in 2010 at Min Wage at $6 per hour. Suzy works hard for 11 years, in all positions, goes to night school, and becomes a floor manager making $20 per hour. Suzy is very proud of this and finally getting ahead in life. The stroke of a pen raises minimum wage triples to $18 per hour. A new hire now makes nearly what it took Suzy 11 years of hard work to earn... and Suzy probably will not get a commensurate 3-fold pay increase to $60. So now Suzy took an effective 2/3 pay cut.

In summary, raising wages for low-skill workers harms everyone in the lower and middle class by destroying jobs, automation, increasing costs and/or reducing quality or size of products...

If one wants a successful economy, drop this MIN WAGE NONSENSE and let businesses compete. If you still don't understand, let me try this logic example. If the answer is raising minimum wage, why don't we just raise Min Wage to $1,000,000 per hour so every poor person can become a millionaire? Using that example, it's plainly obvious that you cannot "min wage" the economy to lift poor people up. There's no free lunch and it doesn't work that way. There are basic economic principles at play and it's sad so many just don't get it.
 
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False in many material understandings of economics. I have many economics degrees.

Minimum wage should be totally abolished. It HARMS low wage earners in many ways.
1. It drives up costs and overhead, which are either passed onto the consumer in higher prices, or businesses stop hiring low wage earners and replace them with automation.

1A. Passed on costs. Ever notice prices increase and/or package sizing or quality decreases? Much of that is due to the increase is operating expenses. Money isn't free. To compete, businesses have few options. A) Cut costs or B) Raise prices. Raising prices eats away at all perceived gains in minimum wages.

1B. Cut costs includes lowering quality (meat substitutes, lots of food fillers, overseas production, etc.), or sizes (ever notice many product sizes are much smaller today?) Or hiring freezes, firing people, cutting benefits, automation, sending jobs overseas, etc.

2A. Killing the goose that laid the golden egg = Automation. This is what killed the Detroit auto industry. Once the 5th most prosperous and desirable US city, with some of the wealthiest zip codes in the entire US, unions demanding unreasonably high wages for workers forced the auto industry to automate. This ended low skill and high paid work in the industry, and gutted Detroit. Detroit is now one of the least desirable and poorest cities in the nation. You can thank unions and greedy demands for too much money. This is playing out around the nation, as stores move to self-checkout and self-bagging, killing off millions of low-skill cashier and bagger jobs. Fast food restaurants are also moving to automation for ordering. Self-driving cars will likely be replacing driver services (taxis, uber, etc.). The trucking industry will probably be next when self-driving truck technology arrives, and will destroy one of the largest good paying careers for men. In the aggregate, this harms our nation.

2B. Closing businesses, or exporting jobs. Congratulations NAFTA, you destroyed the American working class by sending much of our factory jobs overseas so we could buy cheaper products. Entire American industries were killed because workers wanted too much money for low-skill work. Businesses answered by shutting factories and plants, and sending jobs overseas and investing in China and Asia and S. America, etc.

3. Harms higher income brackets. The tier of employees who have worked hard for a long time to get merit pay increases, or have careers in the lower and middle classes, do not typically get commensurate pay raises. So a minimum wage increase, actually HURTS these wage earners. Suddenly, they lose ~5% of their buying power when min wage goes up 5% and all costs go up 5%. These increases eat away at the lower and middle working classes the worst. For example, Susy starts at Walmart in 2010 at Min Wage at $6 per hour. Suzy works hard for 11 years, in all positions, goes to night school, and becomes a floor manager making $20 per hour. Suzy is very proud of this and finally getting ahead in life. The stroke of a pen raises minimum wage triples to $18 per hour. A new hire now makes nearly what it took Suzy 11 years of hard work to earn... and Suzy probably will not get a commensurate 3-fold pay increase to $60. So now Suzy took an effective 2/3 pay cut.

In summary, raising wages for low-skill workers harms everyone in the lower and middle class by destroying jobs, automation, increasing costs and/or reducing quality or size of products...

If one wants a successful economy, drop this MIN WAGE NONSENSE and let businesses compete. If you still don't understand, let me try this logic example. If the answer is raising minimum wage, why don't we just raise Min Wage to $1,000,000 per hour so every poor person can become a millionaire? Using that example, it's plainly obvious that you cannot "min wage" the economy to lift poor people up. There's no free lunch and it doesn't work that way. There are basic economic principles at play and it's sad so many just don't get it.
100% disagree. I minored in Econ at San Jose State University.
You are all over the map with your comments.

My basic premise is, minimum wage earners spend everything they make. Rich people don't.
This spending is an economic stimulus. There is so much more.
Your arguement is known as a race to the bottom in economics.
Hey - when was the minimum wage last increased?

Walmart pays poorly; Costco pays decent wages. Which workers are more productive in society?
Which company has less turnover? Which earner group is better for our economy?
 
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100% disagree. I minored in Econ at San Jose State University.
You are all over the map with your comments.

My basic premise is, minimum wage earners spend everything they make. Rich people don't.
This spending is an economic stimulus. There is so much more.
Your arguement is known as a race to the bottom in economics.
False. Show me anywhere that min. wage has worked or improved ecnomies?

I can show you a million US cities where it harms poor people and working class. I've given many examples.

I'm not "all over the map," these are the real-world economics issues businesses face. There are many, all negative, consequences to low wage earners demanding too much. And, (edited, not standford, San Jose, my error) is in the heart of a bankrupt state that has a terrible economy, in spite of the fact it should be the richest in the world. CA has bountiful resources, yet nobody there understands basic economics it seems. Hint: people are fleeing CA in droves.

I have a minor in econ and have an MBA and run a business...
 
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False. Show me anywhere that min. wage has worked or improved ecnomies?

I can show you a million US cities where it harms poor people and working class. I've given many examples.

I have a minor in econ and have an MBA and run a business...
Minimum wage increases stimulate the economy by increasing consumer spending without adding to state and federal budget deficits.
Minimum wage increases significantly lower the poverty rate, increase earnings for low-wage workers, and decrease public expenditures on welfare programs.

The earnings boost for low-wage workers from higher minimum wages extends beyond the immediate effect of the legal change and instead grows in magnitudefor several years thereafter.


Once again, there is so much more.
 
Minimum wage increases stimulate the economy by increasing consumer spending without adding to state and federal budget deficits.
Minimum wage increases significantly lower the poverty rate, increase earnings for low-wage workers, and decrease public expenditures on welfare programs.

The earnings boost for low-wage workers from higher minimum wages extends beyond the immediate effect of the legal change and instead grows in magnitudefor several years thereafter.


Once again, there is so much more.
Yeah, that's the unicorn rainbow theory anyway. lol. Not real world application. If such nonsense actually worked we'd all just give everyone staggering pay raises to get everyone out of poverty and make everyone rich. Reality vs. fantasy.
 
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