I'm starting to think the lore of the dreaded Nissan/Infiniti CVT woes are a bit exaggerated

Two data points: My Aunt’s 2014ish Murano CVT failed just before the 60k warrantee ended. She had it replaced then traded it in for a Kia not long after.

My 2014 Rogue has 90k and is running ok. I changed the fluid at 80k. Before then no idea the service history.
 
My wife's friend has a 2012 Nissan Altima that just threw a P0868; 156k miles, unknown maintenance history. Intermittent CEL, currently off.

Also shows a P1801 Variable Intake Solenoid Valve 2 circuit issue.

I'm just reading a work order from a local repair shop. I'm thinking of staying away from this one. Although I'm curious.
P1801 is most likely just the VIAS valve. Its a simple 2 way electric over vacuum valve and aftermarket is like $15, OEM is like $70. It could also be the vacuum lines going to it or even the connector. Weird though, they don't fail often?

The P0868 could be something as low on fluid all the way to your pump being shot. If it were mine I would try a spill and fill and change the screen. If it were not mine I would keep whistling and walk on by.
 
I've made it a point to ask Nissan and Infiniti owners if they experienced any transmission problems. None replied affirmatvely. As a matter of fact many have brand loyalty.

I'm not suggesting if you buy a Nissan product there's no chance, you'll experience CVT problems, but it's far from a foregone conclusion.
I don't know, either, but I just inspected an '09 Rogue with 225k and the CVT felt great.

That said, I have no idea if it's the original CVT, so my sample of one proves very little.
 
The problem with these CVT's is the cost. Even a used one runs $2000+ and most of these cars aren't worth much. 4 mos ago I had a 2018 Sentra come in - CVT bad but she never did any service and the car was abused. It had 128k miles. She bought another car because the trans was $2800 used and $5600 new and her car wasn't worth fixing. Last month a Juke came in and we personally serviced the trans fluid at 34k and 73k miles. It has 88k now and she has the dreaded torque converter codes, it's slipping bad the fluid was black as coal. She also just bought a new vehicle. So my little shop I have seen 2 go bad, one taken care of with low miles and one abused with high miles. Not quite a good stattistic o use for saying if the transmissions are good or bad lol..just my little 2 cents worth but I do read a lot more troubles about them then good. I personally recommend staying away from CVT's if possible.
 
The problem with these CVT's is the cost. Even a used one runs $2000+ and most of these cars aren't worth much. 4 mos ago I had a 2018 Sentra come in - CVT bad but she never did any service and the car was abused. It had 128k miles. She bought another car because the trans was $2800 used and $5600 new and her car wasn't worth fixing. Last month a Juke came in and we personally serviced the trans fluid at 34k and 73k miles. It has 88k now and she has the dreaded torque converter codes, it's slipping bad the fluid was black as coal. She also just bought a new vehicle. So my little shop I have seen 2 go bad, one taken care of with low miles and one abused with high miles. Not quite a good stattistic o use for saying if the transmissions are good or bad lol..just my little 2 cents worth but I do read a lot more troubles about them then good. I personally recommend staying away from CVT's if possible.
I had no idea they were that spendy!
 
Guess we won't know if the new CVT (2024) reliability has improved for a while.

Its not new. Its the same as 2 years ago. Possibly new firmware or other small adjustments.

Nissan Xtronic had its major redesign for I think the 2020 model year. There are a few variants. I didn't see anything in your posted article that indicates different. In fact the term "CVT" only shows up in the headline and one place in the article. CVT likely catches google searches.
 
The problem with these CVT's is the cost. Even a used one runs $2000+

Rebuilt/reman Jatco CVTs are very inexpensive compared to a lot of transmissions. The replacement cost for the Jatco 9spd used in 2020+ Nissan Frontiers is $13K. It's a copy of the Mercedes Benz 9G-tronic. The front wheel drive ZF9 that the newer Pathfinders use is also super expensive.
 
New transmissions (or engines or diff's) have always been crazy priced. After the vehicle has been around for a few years even the OEM's start offering reman's. I can get one for my 2011 Fronty for $3K from the dealer. I found an old listing on the internet that said the new version was $7200 MSRP some years ago.

My guess is in a few years they will have the new 9 speed available also, although it likely will be somewhat more, usually half of what the "new" one is often is a good guess - so maybe $7500 for a reman 9 speed?

1719930991380.jpg
 
  • Like
Reactions: JTK
My sister and brother-in-law have an older high mileage Altima and a newer Silverado. Guess which one just got a new transmission?
 
All and / or a lot of transmissions are that expensive now.
Yep, that's the reality. Especially factoring labor in these days easily brings a transmission replacement into astronomical levels.

Just to give everyone here a quick refresher on prices back in the day: the year was 1984. I needed a car and was given a mid 70's Cutlass Supreme by a friend. It was in nice shape except.. it needed it's auto transmission replaced. He gave it to me because he didn't want to put any more money into it after the trans had unexpectedly failed.

Well not being flush with cash at the time I found a tiny ad on the back page of a local car magazine that said for one fee they would come get the car, replace the trans with a good used one, and deliver it back to me. So I called them and they picked up the car the next day. Took them about a week and they delivered it back to me with it's newly installed trans - a used TH350 if I remember correctly. Anyway, the car ran great, shifted great and I owned it for several years before I sold it - trans intact. Was one of my favorite cars I've owned in fact. Oh yeah, and the total cost for this service? $230 all in. Boy how things have changed, lol.
 
Yep, that's the reality. Especially factoring labor in these days easily brings a transmission replacement into astronomical levels.

Just to give everyone here a quick refresher on prices back in the day: the year was 1984. I needed a car and was given a mid 70's Cutlass Supreme by a friend. It was in nice shape except.. it needed it's auto transmission replaced. He gave it to me because he didn't want to put any more money into it after the trans had unexpectedly failed.

Well not being flush with cash at the time I found a tiny ad on the back page of a local car magazine that said for one fee they would come get the car, replace the trans with a good used one, and deliver it back to me. So I called them and they picked up the car the next day. Took them about a week and they delivered it back to me with it's newly installed trans - a used TH350 if I remember correctly. Anyway, the car ran great, shifted great and I owned it for several years before I sold it - trans intact. Was one of my favorite cars I've owned in fact. Oh yeah, and the total cost for this service? $230 all in. Boy how things have changed, lol.
It was in 1992 or thereabouts I had the transmission in my 1985 Escort GT rebuilt at the Ford dealer for $1100. That was in Montgomery County, MD (an expensive place to live).
 
Back
Top