I've mentioned this before, but my friend who owns a tranny shop, tells me that the worst CVT in the Nissan lineup are mated to 4 cylinder engines.
I'm starting to think the lore of the dreaded Nissan/Infiniti CVT woes are a bit exaggerated
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That still covers a wide range of Jatco CVTs.
I didnt wreck my JATCO in my '14 Rogue Select. I drove it like a monster: down selecting D to L and manually selecting L to D (od off) then OD on with full throttle acceleration. Also selecting N rolling down hills. Everything wrong. I did service it at about 18K as I saw tons of nasty wear-in mud on the dipstick tip (the early gen still had underhood DS for trans fluid)
Also a funny thing of note, the factory CVT fluid level would go from off the bottom of the dip stick tip when ice cold to being more than a 1/4 inch over Hot Full line at the end of a 45min rush hour commute.
Just some notes from the Woods up here in NH.
Also a funny thing of note, the factory CVT fluid level would go from off the bottom of the dip stick tip when ice cold to being more than a 1/4 inch over Hot Full line at the end of a 45min rush hour commute.
Just some notes from the Woods up here in NH.
I had a '14 Altima.
Supposedly one of the affected model years.
No issues.
I simpley enjoyed the best seats in its class, 40+ mpg on the highway, paired with good visibility and a nice interior.
Supposedly one of the affected model years.
No issues.
I simpley enjoyed the best seats in its class, 40+ mpg on the highway, paired with good visibility and a nice interior.
Maybe 15,ooo is a bit over the top.
but 30k certainly is reasonable.
With a CVT the fluid IS your clutch.
So if the fluid is worn out you will get cumilative damage.
A CVT with regular low interval fluid changes will theoretically last longer than any "normal" auto transmisison, just about forever even, because it does not have a clutch pack to wear out.
But no one in the US does that.
I kinda blame Nissan too, because instead of making it clear in their manual they did the opposite and dont seem to push CVT fluid changes at all.
What I saw working in the rental car industry is many 4 cylinder Altimas over 40k miles coming in with wrecked CVTs. Obviously they're rental cars and I would think many are being beat on. Trans services only happened at dealers for Hertz so I'd assume they just don't get the fluid changed. If it's not publicized by Nissan to change the fluid, it's not getting done there and even if it was I'm sure it would be ignored since the cars at the time got dumped at 50k miles. It was a tire change, tire repair, and oil change shop. That's really it other than small random parts. I do wonder if that's changed as the fleet seems to have gotten older from the stories I've seen.
Is this with the engine running and CVT in [Park]?
Interesting. I wonder if those seats will fit in a Cube??
Oh DEFINITELY blame Nissan!! They've been to court so many times (without admitting any fault) that they deserve ALL the backlash they get, and much more!
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Having those particular cars and SUVs some are over exaggerated, I know the newer models are more reliable than past Nissan/Infiniti CVT transmissions, The problem is a lot owners never change their cvt fluid, Owning a few Jatco cvt transmissions they love clean fluid.
Same here, my Maxima was the most comfortable car I've owned. Further, no issues with the CVT, tons of power and excellent engine braking for those long trips to SoFlo and back:
CVT2 and others employ a lock-up torque converter - or fluid coupling - which is your "clutch"
The link belt relies on friction to engage the sheaves. These may have a service life comparable to clutch packs on a modern planetary AT.
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N with handbrake applied. Neither temp was at prescribed the 50 - 80 C,
I was just making a cautionary note on severe fluid level change vs. unit temp.
For those with pre 2014 fill tube CVT2
I have read the latest "high torque" Jatco use a chain now rather than the previously maligned pusher type, banded shim stack "belt"
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I am familiar with the Jatco CVT line, CVT1(?) in particular (jf009e). It has three clutches activated by solenoids, Fwd, Rev and TC.
Just like car starter batteries last much longer in general in almost alwsys cool conditions compared to have a short life in almost always extremely hot conditions, CVT's have different degrading of life in different conditions. Stop and go traffic in hilly areas like Pittsburgh Pennsylvania has to be one of the heavy duty uses of them requiring more frequent fluid changes. And if the vehicle is often carrying a lot of cargo weight, that also adds to wear.
Lightly loaded on level ground doing constant speed and cool conditions would be easy on them.
So, without detailing how a CVT vehicle is used, and only talking miles, it's like comparing apples and grapefruit, and only counting units without specifying what it is.
Lightly loaded on level ground doing constant speed and cool conditions would be easy on them.
So, without detailing how a CVT vehicle is used, and only talking miles, it's like comparing apples and grapefruit, and only counting units without specifying what it is.
