What was the "Nissan car"?
I'm starting to think the lore of the dreaded Nissan/Infiniti CVT woes are a bit exaggerated
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My sis in law 2017 Rouge 7 with 200k miles is likely on road to failure . They are not car people however stated that it shifts oddly.
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JTK
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Owing a Nissan product, CVT or not, is no different than owning a Chevy, Ford or Chrysler. There's those who go 200k miles without issue and those who have major problems before 3yrs/36k.
You believe rebuilders wonder into a local dealer somewhere and buy parts?
Rebuilders get their parts elsewhere clearly, whether its an engine, transmission, alternator, starter, whatever. The original manufacturer of the part or aftermarket most likely.
Maybe I've read it before and I forget but what is your automotive background is that you seem so confident in your opinions about a lot of these subjects?
I saw enough CVT failures on Nissan's through the independent shops I worked at (in the 5-8 years after they started coming in all their cars, before I left automotive that I would never recommend one to someone if it would be somewhat financially devastating if it was to fail.
People do get lucky and I work with someone who did get 240k so far out of their rogue (all highway driving) and one person had their versa CVT fail at 85k. So 50% failure rate among my coworkers.
So a number of them may be written off or otherwise scrapped before it fails. It doesn't change that it's a high risk of failing at any time.
I know it's not a big deal for people who can afford to keep upgrading every few years like you.
Yes true, but many needed parts are available from the manufacture. So you have to be some how affiliated with them to get said parts.
The normal gasket, seal, frictions are available after market. There is no way they allow us normal nuts, get parts from say Jatco the maker.
I had to order a few ball bearings that were close to the correct size and make them fit. Anyother needed parts or tools you have to make your self.
This is the Internet. Everybody has an opinion. But yea- there is definitely a herd mentality on some issues.
The Rogue is still the third best selling vehicle in its class.
But yea- I don't drink the Kool- Aid.
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Hasn't Nissan improved the CVT since then?
This is the thing- I had a bad tire, transmission, water pump
15 years ago- no product IMPROVMENT IN 10 YEARS....YEA RIGHT...
A friend of mine that I used to work with now works at a Nissan dealership and he said some of the newer ones are even worse. He just bought an older Nissan Murano because he got it for $2000 with no rust and in amazing shape. His opinion on Nissan CVT transmissions is still not high.
I think this is incorrect. The Murano was CVT only.
The first year, 2002, there were many CVT failures. Nissan HQ had a team of engineers that went into the field and visited each failed vehicle, gathering information on the cause of the failure. Many failures related to software in the control unit, which was improved. By 2003, the failure rate dropped significantly, and everybody was feeling pretty good about the units performance. I think this led to a false sense of security, because that started the ball rolling for mass wholesale conversion of the Nissan fleet to CVT in 2007.
Hit and miss sounds like, but I would wager a large number of them are fine. My brother has had 2 Nissan failures. His 2016 Sentras CVT failed at 30K(oddly early) and his girlfriend just traded her 2017 Rogue with 94K that was slipping badly.
Honda CVT failure numbers are low and MTTF keeps increasing yet people seem to lump Nissan and Honda CVTs together
JTK
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The Versa and Sentra CVT seemed to always be the worst, then progressively better by the next models up, Altima, Rogue, Pathfinder, Maxima, Murano, etc.
Is that supposed to be a relief for me? It sure doesnt mean jack for anybody who's CVT failed outside of warranty.
I had ruled them out, but I would give them a chance and be obsessive about maintenance. They're sort of fascinating.
The Versa my brother and his wife rented when they came to visit was very nice and I got to drive it for some distance.
You could tell it was always working though, and the sounds and response were a lot like the Iron Duke/3 speed auto in my 86 Olds Calais. It didn't put me off. It was just... curious.
I don't understand though; if they're simpler and cheaper to build for the manufacturer, why are they so expensive to replace? And why are there not booming cottage businesses popping up rebuilding/remanufacturing replacements for far less money?
So yeah, I would own one. In a Nissan, Mitsubishi, Toyota. Never one developed by GM like in the Trailblazer. Nor Ford nor CF Motors [Stellantis].
The Versa my brother and his wife rented when they came to visit was very nice and I got to drive it for some distance.
You could tell it was always working though, and the sounds and response were a lot like the Iron Duke/3 speed auto in my 86 Olds Calais. It didn't put me off. It was just... curious.
I don't understand though; if they're simpler and cheaper to build for the manufacturer, why are they so expensive to replace? And why are there not booming cottage businesses popping up rebuilding/remanufacturing replacements for far less money?
So yeah, I would own one. In a Nissan, Mitsubishi, Toyota. Never one developed by GM like in the Trailblazer. Nor Ford nor CF Motors [Stellantis].
Sounds like a burgeoning business idea to remanufacture CVTs. My older son is involved with his Baja race team at the university of Calgary. They build their own CVT for their race vehicles. They machine all the parts, but buy the belt, I think. They have almost no budget. Jatco should be able to make one that lasts. Honda/Toyota obviously did.
Years ago(2014?) I rented a Rogue in California and it was the worst, rubber band effect CVT drive ever. Absolutely terrible.
A few months back we rented the Quashqai(sp?) equivalent in Costa Rica and it was a decent drive so there have been improvements. I still have trouble considering a CVT in a new purchase though.
Years ago(2014?) I rented a Rogue in California and it was the worst, rubber band effect CVT drive ever. Absolutely terrible.
A few months back we rented the Quashqai(sp?) equivalent in Costa Rica and it was a decent drive so there have been improvements. I still have trouble considering a CVT in a new purchase though.
My wife's friend has a 2012 Nissan Altima that just threw a P0868; 156k miles, unknown maintenance history. Intermittent CEL, currently off.
Also shows a P1801 Variable Intake Solenoid Valve 2 circuit issue.
I'm just reading a work order from a local repair shop. I'm thinking of staying away from this one. Although I'm curious.
Also shows a P1801 Variable Intake Solenoid Valve 2 circuit issue.
I'm just reading a work order from a local repair shop. I'm thinking of staying away from this one. Although I'm curious.
