My brother and his wife leased a first year murono. Cvt did not last long. In fact back then so many failed that for a while nissan stopped using CVT's in them. My they has had several more muronos and the latest one with over 100,000 miles has a transmission problem, but it looks to be in the control section, not the band.
I'm starting to think the lore of the dreaded Nissan/Infiniti CVT woes are a bit exaggerated
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Parts availability only matters if the manufactures intend to ever make said parts. My understanding is that when it comes to transmissions, many of the repair parts simply do not exist (aka, new units required)... If I'm wrong I'd be happy to hear from someone in the automotive repair industry.
Z1 motorsports - which is a Nissan's enthusiast store out of Atlanta, actually sells a CVT's for many Nissan's for about $3K.
They sell belts for some models as well.
These parts are available somehow obviosly. Maybe aftermarket?
https://www.z1motorsports.com/auto-...1:0:4:76&qid=6d5b92e6660b816c175eabd1bc9d0db5
they made improvements later in their troubled CVTs life which has improved things but, earlier models absolutely had an abnormally higher than normal failure rate.
We have 5 Rogues in our family with 3 of them over or near 100,000. None have had CVT issues and I am the only one who does 30k mile spill and fills of the 5. One is meticulously maintained at the dealer by the book. The other 3 are driven with minimal maintenace.
Rogue #6 with 150k miles was destroyed in a T-bone incident and was on its original transmission. CVT fluid changed at 105,000 miles, when I bought it.
Our Altima was no problem as well.
Few talk about Equinox’s and how they like to grenade engines…..but Nissan is considered junk.
Rogue #6 with 150k miles was destroyed in a T-bone incident and was on its original transmission. CVT fluid changed at 105,000 miles, when I bought it.
Our Altima was no problem as well.
Few talk about Equinox’s and how they like to grenade engines…..but Nissan is considered junk.
The Nissan dealer told my SIL that there was no need to change the fluid in her CVT. Not a small dealership either.
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You’ll find different answers at different dealerships. I have seen CVT at Nissan with north of 200,000 miles and never a problem. That was people that was meticulous with maintenance.
I didn't break mine in almost 70K miles and i drove it like a monster, shifting it between L and OD off and down shifting for engine braking etc. Did one complete fluid change around 15K. It was absolute mud from wear in.
Biggest problem with this car (Qashqai of Japanese mfg) was brake rotors getting chewd up. Next was heat shield tack welds rusting and the shields buzzing loudly. Local custom pipe shop tacked some back up, and just ripped off some of the other sections for 50 bucks. These guys were rolling in the dough from constant custom exhaust jobs on pickups - both gasoline and diesel.
Third issue on this car was the oil pump ripping up filters in winter. This was a 5W30 grade spec engine at the time (QR25DE)
Now, the MFG assembly boss at the last place I was employed leased a couple Nissan Altima, and he had the CVT trans fail on two vehicles in the eight years I was there! Funny that a large MOVERAS transmission rebuidling facility was across the street - but they didn't reman CVT at the time. Actually tried to get a job there setting up the production lines - but no luck.
Biggest problem with this car (Qashqai of Japanese mfg) was brake rotors getting chewd up. Next was heat shield tack welds rusting and the shields buzzing loudly. Local custom pipe shop tacked some back up, and just ripped off some of the other sections for 50 bucks. These guys were rolling in the dough from constant custom exhaust jobs on pickups - both gasoline and diesel.
Third issue on this car was the oil pump ripping up filters in winter. This was a 5W30 grade spec engine at the time (QR25DE)
Now, the MFG assembly boss at the last place I was employed leased a couple Nissan Altima, and he had the CVT trans fail on two vehicles in the eight years I was there! Funny that a large MOVERAS transmission rebuidling facility was across the street - but they didn't reman CVT at the time. Actually tried to get a job there setting up the production lines - but no luck.
Coming up on 180k on my '08 Altima 2.5. No engine or trans issues.
First spill and fill was at around 120k. Fluid looked fine. Second was at about 160k. Dropped the pan and changed both filters. Everything looked ok with only a bit of fuzz on the magnet. The main reason I hesitated to change the fluid was the stupid price Nissan charged for the fluid. I used Amsoil CVT both times.
I attribute my good luck to a mostly highway mile commute, and not driving it like an A-hole.
First spill and fill was at around 120k. Fluid looked fine. Second was at about 160k. Dropped the pan and changed both filters. Everything looked ok with only a bit of fuzz on the magnet. The main reason I hesitated to change the fluid was the stupid price Nissan charged for the fluid. I used Amsoil CVT both times.
I attribute my good luck to a mostly highway mile commute, and not driving it like an A-hole.
The Nissan CVT's have a control module feature that records high temperature events, the type that can degrade the fluid, and translates this into a numeric value. The appropriate reader can retrieve this code, and Nissan says to change the fluid when the value exceeds 210k. From what I've read, the fluid should last about 60k miles with normal usage. Changing before this time will only serve one purpose: remove loose debris. But debris is removed by the filter, so I'm unclear how short run changes will extend the life of the transmission.
How soon we forget Honda AT's never lasting
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By the time you convert that from USD to CAD, ship it, get someone to install it, you're up to 6000 to 7000 CAD for a car that's worth 4000. Just not worth it.
I don't know enough about nissan so I'd just avoid them.
I considered getting a 2.4 L honda with the 6 speed as a daily driver, that seems like the best idea (stick shift) when it comes to most cheap cars, that and a simple 4 or 6 NA.
Wished I would have qualified this topic in the context of purchasing a new Nissan.
Of course a used, poorly maintained vehicle is going to be risky for most brands.
Of course a used, poorly maintained vehicle is going to be risky for most brands.
The dealers tell you what the book says, otherwise people post on facebook about how the dealer ripped them off.
I've had good service from our Nissan CVT's. Yes, I maintain them pro-actively, so if that's the solution I might never know.
I suspect that if the CVT is driven aggressively in a very hot climate, with no maintenance, this might produce a shorter lifespan?
I suspect that if the CVT is driven aggressively in a very hot climate, with no maintenance, this might produce a shorter lifespan?
My '15 Sentra blew the CVT at 27k miles, and then again at 58k.
I looked into it a while back, and the new Xtronic 3rd generation came out around the 2020 model year. It was supposed to be more sophisticated control algorithms and expanded gear ratio's, which presumably would help with any chain slippage.
Whether this helps their longevity I am not sure they have been out long enough to determine?
Nissan agreed to several class actions on their early CVT's. So the problems are not made up. But every car has problems, and not every Nissan CVT will, many never have issues.
Sorry your wrong when it comes to these main components like transmissions or engines. Since there are outfits that rebuild them for the dealers or the factory dealer network in the US. So that means all the parts for them are available. 2 years ago when I redid my daughters CVT in her Nissan car, $5,000. CVT's were available. So dah the part was available.
I also found out the dealers didn't know about the external filter for them, what does that tell you?
