Continuous improvement is welcome. I totally expect 200,000 miles from my vehicles and it has not been the engine that is the typically the problem. Motor oil advancements made this possible. Lube on!
ILSAC GF-7 only five years away, to debut in Q2 2028: details
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ILSAC to debut march 2027
https://petrocanadalubricants.com/en-ca/knowledge-centre/article/an-introduction-to-ilsac-gf-7
https://petrocanadalubricants.com/en-ca/knowledge-centre/article/an-introduction-to-ilsac-gf-7
Triple_Se7en
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That's terrific!
Mostly likely just under 36 months
I hope they are not asking for a Five Year Plan on Studies.
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Wait - initial plans are to introduce it in small increments by March 31, 2025. The new Approvals / Standardization may be hidden inside your GF-6 jug and you may not even know it.
Didn't Mobil-1 (Exxon) admit to doing these things in the past? Someone would ask them questions when a new Approval would appear and instantly they would say the jugs that have been on store shelves for the past year, already contain the new Approval.
So who will be the new ILSAC Guinea Pig this next time? Because Exxon masks their oils so well and don;t admit to anything inside those jugs, they will probably be the new GF-7 tester.
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tdi jerry
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Also stop ships they use a heavy bunker oil. The greeners need to get a life.
There's two sides to the coin regarding how an oil holds up.
The oil is one, how the engine it is in abuses that oil is another. Perhaps it is time that these test specify and take into consideration how oil is abused in engines and include limits of what an oil should be exposed to.
Too small a sump, don't expect extremely long oil change intervals.
Too high of a temperature (such as but in no way limited to, abuse when passing through a turbocharger designed with not enough cooling).
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Just food for thought.
If the oil designers are going to have to jump through smaller and higher hoops, maybe it's time to set real standards and limits of what the engine designers can throw at these oils.
Start with a minimum sump size vs produced HP.
And regarding sump size, maybe have an adjustment factor depending on other things, such as but not limited to, induction boost pressure, displacement vs HP, maximum temperature the oil will see, exc.......
Even the best oil is not magic liquid, so don't expect magic from it. Keep it real in what is expected vs the other side of that coin - what it exposed to / how it is abused when used.
The oil is one, how the engine it is in abuses that oil is another. Perhaps it is time that these test specify and take into consideration how oil is abused in engines and include limits of what an oil should be exposed to.
Too small a sump, don't expect extremely long oil change intervals.
Too high of a temperature (such as but in no way limited to, abuse when passing through a turbocharger designed with not enough cooling).
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Just food for thought.
If the oil designers are going to have to jump through smaller and higher hoops, maybe it's time to set real standards and limits of what the engine designers can throw at these oils.
Start with a minimum sump size vs produced HP.
And regarding sump size, maybe have an adjustment factor depending on other things, such as but not limited to, induction boost pressure, displacement vs HP, maximum temperature the oil will see, exc.......
Even the best oil is not magic liquid, so don't expect magic from it. Keep it real in what is expected vs the other side of that coin - what it exposed to / how it is abused when used.
Ships already have had to begin using cleaner fuels.
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