I used auto-rx for 1,500 miles ...

[matrass]

Originally Posted By: badtlc
Some of you folks need to let the frank hate go. This guy is obviously not frank. frank wouldn't know how use English properly if his life depended on it. This guy isn't butchering the language enough to be frank.



I agree that we should not assume this person is Frank. we have some people who do not like ARX and some people like me have seen it work for them. we should all form our own opinion. for the record , even though I am saying nice things about ARX, I have not been paid or received any free product. my thoughts are my own with nobody tipping the scales in their favor. the forum is used to share information on products and we need to try them ourself to see if they work for us.

 

[badtlc]

Originally Posted By: matrass
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Some of you folks need to let the frank hate go. This guy is obviously not frank. frank wouldn't know how use English properly if his life depended on it. This guy isn't butchering the language enough to be frank.



I agree that we should not assume this person is Frank. we have some people who do not like ARX and some people like me have seen it work for them. we should all form our own opinion. for the record , even though I am saying nice things about ARX, I have not been paid or received any free product. my thoughts are my own with nobody tipping the scales in their favor. the forum is used to share information on products and we need to try them ourself to see if they work for us.


I agree. I don't care for frank or the way he does things at all. But that doesn't mean anything to me with regards to a product. If a product works I'll use it. If not, I won't. I don't care about marketing, packaging, etc. I just care about the product.

 

[V8man]

Originally Posted By: RetiredGuy1
... Drained the oil after 1,500 miles and I was amazed at the gooey, gunk and black, sometimes thick stream coming out of the crankcase. I checked the oil filter out and it was obvious that it was heavier than after a normal oil change. Replaced the filer and added oil to the fill level, and after 150 miles the oil is still clean (as seen on the dipstick). This is a S-10 2003 V-6 with only 40,000 miles on it and all city driving. I've never had clean oil except when I bought the car - original owner.

Here is my point. I picked Auto-Rx because it offered a non solvent solution. I say it works well even if you use it for short intervals - less than 3,000 miles. Now I am going on the maintenance plan. By the way, does anyone have experience with Auto-Rx Plus? (A new product?)


I do not see any auto-rx application where you drain the oil after 1500 miles, the basic cleaning application calls for a 3000 mile clean and then a 3000 mile rinse. I do not see any application where you dump the oil at 1500 miles, now the Fast Track Application calls for a 1000 mile clean and the rinse phase is 1000 or 2000 miles.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: matrass
the forum is used to share information on products and we need to try them ourself to see if they work for us.



EXCELLENT advice.

hear hear!

 

[Trajan]

Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: matrass
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Some of you folks need to let the frank hate go. This guy is obviously not frank. frank wouldn't know how use English properly if his life depended on it. This guy isn't butchering the language enough to be frank.



I agree that we should not assume this person is Frank. we have some people who do not like ARX and some people like me have seen it work for them. we should all form our own opinion. for the record , even though I am saying nice things about ARX, I have not been paid or received any free product. my thoughts are my own with nobody tipping the scales in their favor. the forum is used to share information on products and we need to try them ourself to see if they work for us.


I agree. I don't care for frank or the way he does things at all. But that doesn't mean anything to me with regards to a product. If a product works I'll use it. If not, I won't. I don't care about marketing, packaging, etc. I just care about the product.


But, as this thread has shown, it's like waving meat at a pack of hyenas when you say something good about arx. Yeah, yeah, they say Frank Miller is poison. But he isn't here. What is poison is how people become their very own version of Frank Miller when ARX gets mentioned.

One could bet that the OP has a pretty negative view of the board now. And one could also bet that the people in this thread who caused it don't care. Which is a shame.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: matrass
the forum is used to share information on products and we need to try them ourself to see if they work for us.



EXCELLENT advice.

hear hear!


Gather info, decide if you want to try it, and then call it as you see it, good, bad, or ugly.

 

[Donald]

A couple of points to consider. Most people are not a master of all tasks. So maybe Frank is a good chemist but a lousy buniness person and a non people person. Secondy with respect to his guarantee, he is not Walmart and sells so much that the returns they get are noise and do not matter in the bottom line. Most people who use AutoRx (me included) did not pull the valve cover before and after to see if AutoRx worked or not. And I am sure many people tried to pull a fast one and just said it did not work so they could get their money back. Whether it worked or not. I suspect AutoRx has a variety of situations where is does some good and for others it does not help. Unfortunately with a zest for marketing, Frank may not have done enough testing to see where it works and where it does not.

If AutoRx works, the cost is insignificant. The $27 per bottle would not cover pulling the valve cover and dealing with the sludge in a manual way.

 

[2KBMW]

Originally Posted By: RetiredGuy1
Funny how you freaks think i am "Frank". I'm telling you like it is. Next time - about 10,000 miles more I will try sea foam. Right now, for the next several years I'll stick with Auto-Rx

Here is a video on Marvel Mystery Oil and Auto-Rx - interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0o88QNDt0yY

Still guys, I'm not Frank. Just interested in prolonging the life of my engine.


If your a new member how do you know about Frank and why are you upset ?

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted By: electrolover
I mean look at his post history for crying out loud

There is no doubt in my mind that this is Frank Miller or someone posting what he is writing.

His post is crazy.
Originally Posted By: Frank/Retired Guy
Drained the oil after 1,500 miles and I was amazed at the gooey, gunk and black, sometimes thick stream coming out of the crankcase...

This is a S-10 2003 V-6 with only 40,000 miles on it and all city driving. I've never had clean oil except when I bought the car - original owner.


A 2003 with 40K thats 4K a year and he owned it since new, if he changed the oil once a year with dino thats only a 4K OCI.
No way should there be any sludge in that motor. It doesn't make sense, if he neglected the engine because he didn't care about it why all of a sudden this urgent need to maintain it now?
Originally Posted By: Frank/Retired Guy
Still guys, I'm not Frank. Just interested in prolonging the life of my engine.


No, this is Frank alright pushing his snake oil or new and improved snake oil (probably contains a little MMO) or maybe he is having it made in China on the cheap, who knows.

I wont bother going into an anti ARX rant, everyone here knows my dissatisfaction with this product.
Its outrageous that FM keeps infiltrating this board trying to push his product either by himself or by using people he coaches.

It would be nice if the folks he has contacted to retract statements or postings for free product would come forward and expose these shenanigans once and for all.

 

[TuBon_gRips]

Originally Posted By: Trav
A 2003 with 40K thats 4K a year and he owned it since new, if he changed the oil once a year with dino thats only a 4K OCI.
No way should there be any sludge in that motor. It doesn't make sense, if he neglected the engine because he didn't care about it why all of a sudden this urgent need to maintain it now?


To sell it.

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted By: KeMBro2012
Originally Posted By: Trav
A 2003 with 40K thats 4K a year and he owned it since new, if he changed the oil once a year with dino thats only a 4K OCI.
No way should there be any sludge in that motor. It doesn't make sense, if he neglected the engine because he didn't care about it why all of a sudden this urgent need to maintain it now?


To sell it.

Maybe but why bother on an 03? Just clean it up near the fill hole (auction style) and unload it.

 

[TuBon_gRips]

Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: KeMBro2012
Originally Posted By: Trav
A 2003 with 40K thats 4K a year and he owned it since new, if he changed the oil once a year with dino thats only a 4K OCI.
No way should there be any sludge in that motor. It doesn't make sense, if he neglected the engine because he didn't care about it why all of a sudden this urgent need to maintain it now?


To sell it.

Maybe but why bother on an 03? Just clean it up near the fill hole (auction style) and unload it.


You never want to pull the VC on a car you're thikging of buying?

 

[Trav]

No. Most other people don't either.
I never sold a car that someone asked to pull a valve cover.

If i am spending a significant amount i buy new, if its used there are other ways to tell if its sludged or varnished without pulling it apart.

 

[TuBon_gRips]

Originally Posted By: Trav
No. Most other people don't either.
I never sold a car that someone asked to pull a valve cover.

If i am spending a significant amount i buy new, if its used there are other ways to tell if its sludged or varnished without pulling it apart.



It's common practice over here to take a private-party used vehicle to a mechanic for inspection prior to purchase. A relative minority of the population does it, but it's common enough to expect any vehicle with an asking price over $2500 to have at least one interested buyer want their mechanic to look it over. It's not just about sludge and varnish, but overall condition of the vehicle.

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted By: KeMBro2012
it's common enough to expect any vehicle with an asking price over $2500 to have at least one interested buyer want their mechanic to look it over

I guess thats my problem. I am the mechanic.

 

[RetiredGuy1]

PREVIOUS QUOTE:
"I do not see any auto-rx application where you drain the oil after 1500 miles, the basic cleaning application calls for a 3000 mile clean and then a 3000 mile rinse. I do not see any application where you dump the oil at 1500 miles, now the Fast Track Application calls for a 1000 mile clean and the rinse phase is 1000 or 2000 miles."



You are correct. Auto-Rx removes sludge. The sludge, dirt, "goo" is suspended in the oil. I wanted to drop the oil and change the filter because this truck gets little mileage. Takes a lot of 1-3 miles rides. then 1 hour down time. Then the same several times a day - everyday.

I figured I would not wait. Now I have added only oil and a filter - "rinse phase". I have another bottle I will use it either as the maintenance plan describes or another full application.

By the way, I plan to buy more of Auto-Rx and use it on the maintenance plan for the life of the truck.

 

[electrolover]

Originally Posted By: RetiredGuy1
PREVIOUS QUOTE:
"I do not see any auto-rx application where you drain the oil after 1500 miles, the basic cleaning application calls for a 3000 mile clean and then a 3000 mile rinse. I do not see any application where you dump the oil at 1500 miles, now the Fast Track Application calls for a 1000 mile clean and the rinse phase is 1000 or 2000 miles."



You are correct. Auto-Rx removes sludge. The sludge, dirt, "goo" is suspended in the oil. I wanted to drop the oil and change the filter because this truck gets little mileage. Takes a lot of 1-3 miles rides. then 1 hour down time. Then the same several times a day - everyday.

I figured I would not wait. Now I have added only oil and a filter - "rinse phase". I have another bottle I will use it either as the maintenance plan describes or another full application.

By the way, I plan to buy more of Auto-Rx and use it on the maintenance plan for the life of the truck.



Here we go. More sales pitch straight from FRANK.

The maintenance plan is just a way to keep people buying it and keep your pockets full.

 

[Mystic]

I was an Auto-RX user for a while. I was impressed with how it seemed to stop a seal leak. But then in all this time I have never seen any real good documentation that it really cleans engines the way it is supposed to clean. Plus there was the mess here when a guy came forward and said that he had received product for support. I don't know if that was the truth or not but after that I had no further use for Auto-RX. Although a person might give the stuff a try if they have a seal leak.

I wonder if in the case of a dirty engine a person might be better off just using Redline oil. It is ester oil and might have a decent cleaning effect, and it sure will not damage your engine because it is motor oil. If your car developed a seal leak after using it then I guess you use Auto-RX!

Otherwise, maybe give Amsoil nonsolvent engine flush a try or use Lubegard nonsolvent engine flush.

 

[Trajan]

Originally Posted By: electrolover



Here we go. More sales pitch straight from FRANK.

The maintenance plan is just a way to keep people buying it and keep your pockets full.



So much hate for a guy who doesn't post here.

How is this any different from kreen/mmo posters? All the sales pitches from those users. Sure keeps those companies' pockets full.

 

[TuBon_gRips]

Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: electrolover



Here we go. More sales pitch straight from FRANK.

The maintenance plan is just a way to keep people buying it and keep your pockets full.



So much hate for a guy who doesn't post here.

How is this any different from kreen/mmo posters? All the sales pitches from those users. Sure keeps those companies' pockets full.


Point me to a sales pitch for Kreen or MMO?