I used auto-rx for 1,500 miles ...

[Trajan]

Originally Posted By: simple_simon
Originally Posted By: RetiredGuy1
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"I do not see any auto-rx application where you drain the oil after 1500 miles, the basic cleaning application calls for a 3000 mile clean and then a 3000 mile rinse. I do not see any application where you dump the oil at 1500 miles, now the Fast Track Application calls for a 1000 mile clean and the rinse phase is 1000 or 2000 miles."



You are correct. Auto-Rx removes sludge. The sludge, dirt, "goo" is suspended in the oil. I wanted to drop the oil and change the filter because this truck gets little mileage. Takes a lot of 1-3 miles rides. then 1 hour down time. Then the same several times a day - everyday.

I figured I would not wait. Now I have added only oil and a filter - "rinse phase". I have another bottle I will use it either as the maintenance plan describes or another full application.

By the way, I plan to buy more of Auto-Rx and use it on the maintenance plan for the life of the truck.


Auto-RX is garbage (edit - mod). Plain and simple.


And of course you can prove that, right?

Was Gary Allan a (edit - mod)?

Is dnewton3 one?

How about the past and current owners of this site? (They all have used it.)

 

[Trav]

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: midnightlaundry
Looks like I have some Pennzoil Ultra in my future.


Wise decision it will save you a lot of money too. If you're not happy with the cleaning results mention it here. There are a few good products you can get that offer a no questions asked money back guarantee in the rare event they don't work.

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: midnightlaundry
Looks like I have some Pennzoil Ultra in my future.


Wise decision it will save you a lot of money too. If you're not happy with the cleaning results mention it here. There are a few good products you can get that offer a no questions asked money back guarantee in the rare event they don't work.

+1

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: Trav

Hard, isn't it!

I admire the restraint...

 

[simple_simon]

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Trav
It did not work as advertised for me on over a dozen engines. It is the poorest performing and one of the most expensive cleaning products on the market IMO based on hundreds of my hard earned money spent in product.

If you are interested on why the displeasure i suggest you read all the old ARX threads very carefully.




Trav is experienced and his opinion I hold in very high regard. If this is how he feels than I would consider the comments gospel.


+1

ARX = garbage

 

[Mystic]

I think the first thing a person should do who wants to get their engine cleaned is use a motor oil that has good cleaning ability-such as Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1. Then you can add something like MMO which is readily available at Wal-Mart to help the oil clean. In a few short OCIs you could probably clean the engine pretty well, even just using the motor oil.

 

[sprintman]

Works very well if you ignore the instructions, as I have for approx 12 years.
Rx Plus is available and stronger although early days for testing. I allocate 6 bottles per acquired vehicle and follow my own regime FWIW.

 

[KCJeep]

Originally Posted By: sprintman
Works very well if you ignore the instructions, as I have for approx 12 years.
Rx Plus is available and stronger although early days for testing. I allocate 6 bottles per acquired vehicle and follow my own regime FWIW.


What is your regime?

 

[SteveSRT8]

Maybe you both mean "regimen"??

 

[Trav]

 

[sprintman]

2-3 bottles depending on sump size, non ester oil, new filter, and drive it for up to 10,000 kms/7,500 miles or until the HLA noise tells you it's time to change the oil/filter. I do that three times. If the engine runs cold fix it. I Cheap, safe, and works for me.

 

[sprintman]

Originally Posted By: sprintman
2-3 bottles depending on sump size, non ester oil, new filter, and drive it for up to 10,000 kms/7,500 miles or until the HLA noise tells you it's time to change the oil/filter. I do that three times. If the engine runs cold fix it. I Cheap, safe, and works for me.


That of course was 2-3 bottles of old Rx. ArX Plus I can't comment on yet, it will take a few years testing on my part.

 

[Mystic]

Or maybe try three short OCIs with Pennzoil Platinum or Pennzoil Ultra motor oil combined with readily available MMO that a person can buy at low cost at the nearest Wal-Mart Store. I think Auto-RX+ costs somewhere over twenty dollars (plus you have to add it to motor oil) and five quarts of Pennzoil Platinum or Pennzoil Ultra would cost a person about that much (no additional motor oil required).

The Pennzoil oils are backed by engine sequence testing that provide proof of engine cleaning ability. Some people are always calling for proof of the cleaning ability of these various special engine cleaners. Well, I think engine sequence testing comes about as close as we are going to get to proof.

The Pennzoil oils used in the correct viscosity for the engine are not going to damage the engine. They are certified for use in engines. I am not saying that the Auto-RX will damage an engine; what I am saying is the Pennzoil oils are certified.

The MMO could be considered optional. It is low in cost and readily available. But a person could just use the Pennzoil oils. If additional cleaning seemed required a person could add MMO.

About the same cost as using the Auto-RX plus a conventional motor oil to add the Auto-RX to.

An option that a person could consider. Somebody tell me what is wrong with this option. The Pennzoil oils are backed by engine sequence testing (proof). The Pennzoil oils will not damage an engine. If somebody decides to add MMO to help with cleaning the MMO is cheap and readily available. And a person does not have to use MMO-they could just stick to the Pennzoil oils.

 

[V8man]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
I think Auto-Rx+ costs somewhere over twenty dollars.


$27.97

 

[TuBon_gRips]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
Or maybe try three short OCIs with Pennzoil Platinum or Pennzoil Ultra motor oil combined with readily available MMO that a person can buy at low cost at the nearest Wal-Mart Store. I think Auto-RX+ costs somewhere over twenty dollars (plus you have to add it to motor oil) and five quarts of Pennzoil Platinum or Pennzoil Ultra would cost a person about that much (no additional motor oil required).

The Pennzoil oils are backed by engine sequence testing that provide proof of engine cleaning ability. Some people are always calling for proof of the cleaning ability of these various special engine cleaners. Well, I think engine sequence testing comes about as close as we are going to get to proof.

The Pennzoil oils used in the correct viscosity for the engine are not going to damage the engine. They are certified for use in engines. I am not saying that the Auto-RX will damage an engine; what I am saying is the Pennzoil oils are certified.

The MMO could be considered optional. It is low in cost and readily available. But a person could just use the Pennzoil oils. If additional cleaning seemed required a person could add MMO.

About the same cost as using the Auto-RX plus a conventional motor oil to add the Auto-RX to.

An option that a person could consider. Somebody tell me what is wrong with this option. The Pennzoil oils are backed by engine sequence testing (proof). The Pennzoil oils will not damage an engine. If somebody decides to add MMO to help with cleaning the MMO is cheap and readily available. And a person does not have to use MMO-they could just stick to the Pennzoil oils.


Honestly I hope it works just so I don't have to read any more of this "prove it" [censored]. Of course, nothing will be proof enough for some people, which is why the MMO/ARX holy war continues.

 

[Mystic]

Thanks V8man. A person could certainly get either Pennzoil Platinum or Ultra for even less than that at a Wal-Mart Store or an auto parts store especially if they could get some on sale. And remember, the Auto-RX+ has to be added to motor oil. So add the cost of that motor oil to the cost of the Auto-RX+. The Auto-RX+ cannot be used by itself.

And I am not trying to promote any product. A guy recently showed some interior photographs of an engine here where Mobil 1 oil had been used for the lifetime of the vehicle. The engine looked brand new inside.

If Pennzoil Platinum will not get the engine clean enough (especially if it was combined with MMO) maybe it is time to look at other options, like physically cleaning the engine.

I think the user name for LS_Falcon is correct. He showed an engine that looked pretty clean where Pennzoil Platinum motor oil had been used. Anybody can do a search and check out these photographs for themselves. And we are not talking about just one guy getting results.

Another guy talked about using Pennzoil Platinum in his SUV (I think he also sometimes used MMO) and the oil got dirty immediately at first but then he could go 3000 miles before the oil started to get dirty.

And remember this also-if a person was not satisfied with the results achieved by the Pennzoil (or Mobil 1) oils he could always use Auto-RX+ later. The cleaning done by the Pennzoil oils might aid the cleaning of the Auto-RX+.

 

[Mystic]

I am not trying to argue with anybody. What I am saying there are alternatives to using an expensive engine cleaner. And the alternatives have proof (engine sequence testing).

 

[sprintman]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
I am not trying to argue with anybody. What I am saying there are alternatives to using an expensive engine cleaner. And the alternatives have proof (engine sequence testing).


I have yet to find an oil that cleans well, and I've used more than most. Delvac 1 was probably the best, but RX cleaned that engine up significantly. Remember though I've never followed the 'instructions'.

 

[TuBon_gRips]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
I am not trying to argue with anybody. What I am saying there are alternatives to using an expensive engine cleaner. And the alternatives have proof (engine sequence testing).


I'm assuming this was in response to my post... after re-reading that post I can see how you would think I as accusing you of participating in the argument. I apologize for that, I was using your post as an example of the proof that satisfies industry experts but will still never be proof enough for some of the zealots who insist on carrying on this argument.

I've personally had great results with PU+MMO and have posted about those results here. I haven't used Kreen or ARX (new or old) so I can't comment personally on them; but I will say that several users I respect, here and on other forums, have had success with Kreen (which I would try in a heartbeat if I could get it in CA) while it does seem that the majority of ARX supporters (not all, but enough that I wouldn't want to be in that camp) resort to attacks when someone points out another product that worked for them.

There was a thread recently where two members had both used Restore and it worked for one but not for the other (for whom ARX seemed to work) and the ARX user in that thread could not seem to understand that this was likely because Restore was targeted at an issue he likely didn't have, despite having this explained to him several times. Rather than admit that he had tried the wrong additive first, he insisted on tearing down Restore, which is intended to temporarily fill scoring in cylinder walls, when it did not restore compression in an engine where ARX did restore compression. Of course, ARX works by cleaning, not by filling in scrapes and scoring, so if your issue is with coked up rings, ARX will work and Restore will not. Again, he could not seem to understand this and continued attacking Restore even though several of us (myself included) have had success with it as a "keep the engine running until I can rebuild or replace" measure. Once more, not all ARX users/supporters are like this, but it's prevalent enough that, even if I were an ARX user and did have success with the product, you'd never here me say it.