I cannot find previous coolant used any more

[Chris Meutsch]

Peak Global Lifetime......not anywhere I've looked so far. Someone mentioned their Professional Lifetime is the same stuff but I don't know. It DOES NOT specifically say phosphate and silicate-free like the Global does.
I'd go to Honda for theirs but they don't sell full-strength Type II, just the 50/50. And my normal dilution method of changing it out will leave me below a 50/50 mix if I have to use the diluted stuff.
Help!

 

[bepperb]

I used the Peak Global Lifetime in our Civic, and was pretty happy, so that sucks that it's gone. We'll have to find another Honda-friendly option.

It's still on their website, which doesn't list professional lifetime. FWIW, I found it at a farm and fleet.

 

[Dan55]

Call local autoparts,no luck, Walgreens carries it 12.99 Gal Conc

 

[AzFireGuy79]

Last time I checked Pep Boys was the only auto parts store that carries The global lifetime. But thats phoenix, not sure you have Pep boys in Cincinnati. I would guess you drain and refill your radiator when a change is needed. Why is 50/50 an issue? The concentration will not go below 50% which will give you protection down to about -35! I know its cold in ohio,but not that cold. Not critisizing you, just curious about your motivations. Honda Type 2 is the best coolant for your car as you are probably aware.

 

[Chris Meutsch]

We have Pep Boys and they don't have it any longer.
A drain and fill is not an issue. It's a replacement through dilution that I'm concerned about. If I drain and refill with distilled water, run the car, and do this 3-4 times to get a clear liquid result, and THEN refill with 50/50, I'll be below that mix because of all the pure water still in the system.
I may have to go simple drain and fill if I can't find it any longer. Not a huge deal.

 

[AzFireGuy79]

Oh, I see what you are doing. Yeah I drain and refill my newer toyotas at around 30K. After that I repeat at about every 20K or so using Toyota Super Long Life. I do the same thing in my Acura using Type 2. I have found as long as you stay on top of it and drain early there is no need for replacement through dilution. Good luck!

 

[Chris Meutsch]

I'll be DARNED if Walgreens didn't have the 50/50 Global Lifetime! I bought two at 9.99 each. The 2005 CR-V will get a drain and fill soon and the Civic will get two within the next 60k.

 

[nthach]

The Pep Boys Black Professional stuff is the same stuff per the ingredient statement.

And I'm assuming the new Wal-Mart bottles are the same - unless Peak/Intac are keeping their lips sealed.

 

[Chris Meutsch]

I'm still happy I found the old stuff at $10 per jug instead of Pep Boys $18.99 a jug for the Professional.

What I really want is a new car but the Civic and I are bound until one of us quits Earth it appears. Or I get a fantastic job that gives me a new car or allows me to get a new one and not worry about the economy. So, I'll continue to search out what works for me and over-maintain the dickens out of my rig.

 

[nthach]

^ I feel the same way too. My DD is a 1991 Lexus LS400 with 229K on it, all OEM fluids except for engine/diff/PS fluids.

we have a habit of holding onto cars until they fall apart.

 

[ponderosaTX]

What is the connection between Peak (Old World Industries) and Intac? At their web site, Old World Industries claims to be the only major privately held producer of automotive coolants in North America. In contrast, Intac is the North American subsidiary of CCI, the primary company producing coolants for the Japanese auto manufacturers (including Mazda). Based on the information released in the MSDS for every coolant branded by a Japanese auto manufacturer that I have found on the internet, CCI apparently makes all of the Japanese OEM coolants.

One of my sources of frustration in maintaining Japanese vehicles is that CCI does not sell any aftermarket coolants in North America. CCI gives North American consumers two choices: either buy dealer branded coolant or switch to a different coolant technology.

Based on the product information available for Peak Global Lifetime coolant on the internet, it is not equivalent to any of the CCI OEM coolants because it contains no phosphates, but it has some similar characteristics:
* low pH (approximately 8.0),
* reliance on organic acids other than 2-ethylhexanoic acid (the essence of Dex-Cool), and
* no silicates (in contrast to the European G-05 spec coolant).
So I am interested in hearing about any cooperation/connection between Old World Industries and Intac. They both have their headquarters in Illinois but in different cities (Lemont for Intac vs. Northbrook for OWI).

 

[Dan55]

I'm glad you brought this up because I have just recently noticed some similarity between coolants.Peak Global Lifetime and Honda Type II have similar numbers on the front and back of the jug (MC06 and the zero has a slash). I also have a jug of Mazda long life green, code F04 again with a slash. and similar to Peak long life (Dexclone)with the same code.Supertech (Walmart)same code. The "Coolant Cofusion " article states that japanese coolants have phosphates and Toyota Pink states it on the jug. But does the Honda and Mazda have phosphates or are they rebadged Peak coolants?. My jug of Motorcraft Gold (Z-05)is probably a Zerex product (no codes) and Peak does not offer this in it's aftermarket products. I'm still gathering info and will post additional findings, any feedback will be appreciated.

 

[nthach]

Originally Posted By: ponderosaTX
What is the connection between Peak (Old World Industries) and Intac? At their web site, Old World Industries claims to be the only major privately held producer of automotive coolants in North America. In contrast, Intac is the North American subsidiary of CCI, the primary company producing coolants for the Japanese auto manufacturers (including Mazda). Based on the information released in the MSDS for every coolant branded by a Japanese auto manufacturer that I have found on the internet, CCI apparently makes all of the Japanese OEM coolants.

One of my sources of frustration in maintaining Japanese vehicles is that CCI does not sell any aftermarket coolants in North America. CCI gives North American consumers two choices: either buy dealer branded coolant or switch to a different coolant technology.

Based on the product information available for Peak Global Lifetime coolant on the internet, it is not equivalent to any of the CCI OEM coolants because it contains no phosphates, but it has some similar characteristics:
* low pH (approximately 8.0),
* reliance on organic acids other than 2-ethylhexanoic acid (the essence of Dex-Cool), and
* no silicates (in contrast to the European G-05 spec coolant).
So I am interested in hearing about any cooperation/connection between Old World Industries and Intac. They both have their headquarters in Illinois but in different cities (Lemont for Intac vs. Northbrook for OWI).

I'm drawing my thought on this because the bottles for Peak and virtually all the Japanese coolants are similar. And from a bit of Googling, Intac does do quite a bit of rebottling - or so from a CPSC paper that said something about Intac's brake fluid that was bottled by Gold Eagle that failed to meet DOT standards. I always see MC-06 on Peak and Toyota/Honda bottles as well, and a similar marking on O'Reilly's coolants.

SuperTech OTOH, is relabled Prestone - while the Prestone label says Honeywell and the ST label says Alsip Packaging, the printed lot numbers are the same format and so are the labels.