Hyundai and Kia owners...FYI...

The story indicates they had the oil changed about a week prior and it's two quarts low.
Sounds more like the shop didn't add enough.

Not to say that there aren't issues, but we've never noticed any excessive consumption with our Optima, nor the new Stinger - and my wife is a spirited driver.
 
A tenant where I works said he quit paying and let Hyundai come take their sonata. Supposedly it was the only one on the list not covered by their recall. Hyundai "generously offered " to replace the engine for 8 thousand dollars. Same issue rod knock.
 
97prizm said:
A tenant where I works said he quit paying and let Hyundai come take their sonata. Supposedly it was the only one on the list not covered by their recall. Hyundai "generously offered " to replace the engine for 8 thousand dollars. Same issue rod knock.
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The consumption issue is not related to the rod/internal issue. That really is unfortunate for your tenant. My wife and I were in a similar spot years ago when we sued GM. We won, but it was a couple years of frustration and mess.
 
I have a question(s)...if there is excessive oil consumption...wouldn't that cause 'excessive' emissions? Also, wouldn't that shorten the life span of the converters? Why wouldn't the EPA be involved?
 
Interesting. Mine has never leaked a drop - that I know of. After 8-9k (my OCI), the oil is the same as when I put it in.
 
The examples they provided in the article don't seem to be the greatest. One car that recently had an oil change so potentially could have just been under filled and one car with 140k miles on it. My wife's 2021 Forte is on the list here so I'll keep an eye on it. I've always been in the habit of checking fluid levels pretty frequently anyway.
 
I posted before, but my 2014 Kia Rio is on the list. I need to add a about a quart or so between oil changes. Tried a new PCV, didn't help. Car has gotten full synthetic every 5K since new, so, not sure why it's happening. Has 126K on it now. Still runs great though, just have to keep an eye on oil level.

Just bought a 2019 Tucson, also on list. So far so good (literally only driven it about 300 miles so far and just had an oil change. Dipstick at full mark.)
 
2018 optima with the lifetime warranty... I bought this car hearing the issues with the 2.4. 36k and the car doesnt burn any meaningful oil. Now that I'm short tripping alot its used maybe less than 8 ounces after 3700 miles, but I expected that. Before that it burned no oil. In regards to the article, I'm not sure how the OEM is on the hook after 140k... it seems like H/K is just getting sued to oblivion at this point. This is not to excuse H/K any previous actions (oil filter bs), but I don't believe all their engines are plagued with issues? I don't hear many problems outside of the Theta II engines and hybrids.
 
Friend had a 2017 santa fe.. Started using 1qt/800 miles..
they wouldnt warranty it.. he was second owner so only 5yr/60k warranty and it had 70k miles on it.
He traded it in on a Honda CR-V.

New definitely has advantages to used for hyundai/kia.. the new owner warranty being one of them.
 
swampdodo said:
Sorry if already posted...

Shouldn't people check their oil regularly anyways...I do.

https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045
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I take it these cars don't have oil level sensors? Guess I'm used to VW's that are always looking for an excuse to have a dashboard light come on, but it seems like a good fallback.

"should" people check their oil? Yes. But I think the reality is that shockingly few actually ever check it.
 
My 2018 Elantra GT uses no oil at all.
I do check it about once a month.
Maybe because it only has 16K miles on it.
It's my wife's car and it's an around town driven car.
No work commute.
 
swampdodo said:
I have a question(s)...if there is excessive oil consumption...wouldn't that cause 'excessive' emissions? Also, wouldn't that shorten the life span of the converters? Why wouldn't the EPA be involved?
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That's a great question, so far their answer to this is ZDDP limiting, which is not a good thing.
 
Tahoe4Life said:
I do not know of one person who checks their oil regularly. Some of them did 25 years ago but no more.
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I think this is closer to the truth. Many of us here do check our oil regularly but we are a tiny minority.

I would be interested to find out what percentage of vehicle owners check their oil regularly. I would not be surprised if it is less than 10%.
 


This dude was reporting on Theta 2 problems well before they became widely known in the states, and he nailed it on the smartstream too with this really well done video(has english subtitles). Hyundai uses korea as a testbed for their new engineering(which Koreans know and detest) since the market is relatively small and they cant rely on it for big % of sales like US/Japan, which is why he gets the info out first. The culprit is a combination of the common new era engine stuff (low tension rings etc) that other OEMs have figured out by now. Hyundai will no longer develop IC and are going all in on EV so I doubt they care anyway. 3750 OCI recc for non severe use on a modern car is very telling, along with the dipstick elongation and upping the oil cap. in the owners manual. But hey they got that sweet warranty.
 
this always reminds me of the time my friend & I tried to check the ATF in his girlfirend's camaro belinetta.
never did find the dipstick. I'm convinced someone pulled it & never put it back ............................lol.
 
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