With the Fram I have two Nipples. One with a hose on it (which I put a clamp on) and one with a hose.
With the hose one, I just place it into a container first and then tighten it until oil is flowing. No spill or mess.
With the bare one, I just turn it until I get the flow I need. If I'm trying to take out some oil, I turn it a little and get out what I need. If I'm going for a sample, Put a pan on the floor and let it flow for 30 secs and get a sample.
Both ways work well. And with no mess compaired to taking off the drain plug and dropping it into the pan or the splash of the oil first coming out.
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The engineering and quality between the valves is readily apparent but either will do the job. Btw, the last time I checked a Yugo and a Lexus do the same thing.
The Fumoto valve I saw with it's adapter sure looked more "yugo" like than any of the Frams I've
USED.
Which one have you used that looked poor quality? How did it not drain the oil?
I don't work for Fram and other than their Sure Drain, don't used their oil filters anymore. (even though I have still in the family a 1986 jetta with 250k miles that has seen nothing but Fram filters and is running perfect)
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I guess I need to get a new drain pan that's shallow enough to fit under my car, has enough volume to hold the oil and has a hole where I can stick the hose.
What my uncle did for his PT Cruiser is he took a 5 qt jug, drilled a hole on it's side and put the tube into there.
Then he puts the sure drain on and wola it's done. No mess and low profile. (just make sure your cap is on nice and tight..
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He then drains that container into a normal jug for recycling.
If it was me, I'd get one of those drain pans with the drain in the center and just put the hose into it. I'm always afraid of holes on the sides of containers..
Take care, bill