What about the fact that it looks like reformulations are going to be occurring with non-group III for a while to cover supply issues? See the Oil Industry news thread on that one. I'd like to circumvent that if I can, so I have 2 years worth or so.
How big is your stash, hoarders?
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Those of us who kept a supply on hand don’t have to worry about the temporary reformulation…
Just as those of us who bought ammo when it was cheap, don’t have to worry about political events causing major changes in pricing and availability.
Basically a non issue with SL or above.
I never used to have a huge oil stash, but with the base stock supply issues, and $8 jugs of 5w30 at Walmart, I might have gone slightly overboard recently....
Awfully judgmental? Seriously? You call me "Awfully judgmental" for simply expressing an opinion on a subject that's openly discussed? Using that criteria, then every single poster here, including yourself is "Awfully judgmental" because everyone here expresses their opinions.
Additionally I don't assume "everybody just owns one car". I would think the vast majority have two or three. You are a far outlier with six plus vehicles. If you want to do math, do some simple research first:
The average U.S. household owns 1.83 to 2.28 vehicles. Nationally, roughly a third owns one, 36% owning two, and 22% owning three or more.
What hoarding? I think this was the point. It's a bit insulting to call someone with more oil a hoarder.
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That’s just one example
I mostly didn't intend to build up a stash, just stocked up when on sale. Most of it is $8 and $12/gal Delo 5w40 XSP. I did stock up on 0w40 Mobil Euro for the shortage, to take care of friends and family not in a position to stock up. 5w40 XSP is basically the perfect universal oil, 0w40 Euro nearly so. They definitely won't go to waste.
Completely sat out the Covid TP wars too. We buy TP by the case and keep an entire unopened case in addition to the current in-use case. Just two of us, two cases easily saw us through. There's a reason we buy that way.
Edit: I also wouldn't call a completely reasonable stock of things that are known to be in short supply soon a hoard at all. I like my guns loaded, phone charged, fuel tanks full, fridge and pantry stocked, etc. If that makes me a hoarder, so be it. I'd post the "your boos mean nothing, I've seen who you cheer for" meme here but I'm pretty sure it's copyrighted.
Completely sat out the Covid TP wars too. We buy TP by the case and keep an entire unopened case in addition to the current in-use case. Just two of us, two cases easily saw us through. There's a reason we buy that way.
Edit: I also wouldn't call a completely reasonable stock of things that are known to be in short supply soon a hoard at all. I like my guns loaded, phone charged, fuel tanks full, fridge and pantry stocked, etc. If that makes me a hoarder, so be it. I'd post the "your boos mean nothing, I've seen who you cheer for" meme here but I'm pretty sure it's copyrighted.
I did some stocking up via deals or pre price increases for changes on three vehicles the past few months once it became apparent a price increase and possible shortage was coming. Currently have the below. lt leaves me good for a while and to help out friends and family if needed. Oil change intervals on three different port injected engines will be at least 7,500 to 10k miles using these oils.
13 quarts of QS Euro 5w40
15 quarts of Castrol Edge Euro 5w40
15 quarts Mobil 1 0w30 ESP
5 quarts Mobil 1 Euro 5w30
10 quarts Valvoline Extended Protection 0w20
10 quarts Castrol GTX FS 5w30
15 quarts Castrol Edge HM 5w30
8 quarts Supertech Advanced HM FS
15 quarts Castrol Edge EP 5w30
10 quarts Supertech HM FS 5w30
13 quarts of QS Euro 5w40
15 quarts of Castrol Edge Euro 5w40
15 quarts Mobil 1 0w30 ESP
5 quarts Mobil 1 Euro 5w30
10 quarts Valvoline Extended Protection 0w20
10 quarts Castrol GTX FS 5w30
15 quarts Castrol Edge HM 5w30
8 quarts Supertech Advanced HM FS
15 quarts Castrol Edge EP 5w30
10 quarts Supertech HM FS 5w30
Well, yeah. Your opinion was this:
Hoarding amazes you.
10-15-20 year supply.
SJ and SL
You made a whole bunch of assumptions, which were totally unsubstantiated, created a strawman, then expressed your amazement.
That’s pretty judgmental, don’t you think?
You’re judging people on what you think they did - not what they’ve actually done.
What about shelf life? I seem to recall motor oil only has a shelf life of a few years; more if unopened. I bought Costco Kirkland oil for my three cars & Generac standby generator. Costco no longer sells Mobil 1.
Kirkland comes in a box with two 5-gallon jugs. I wish it was quarts to keep more unopened. About a month ago, I paid $36 for a box ($3.60/qt). A week ago, it increased to $40 ($4.00/qt).
Kirkland comes in a box with two 5-gallon jugs. I wish it was quarts to keep more unopened. About a month ago, I paid $36 for a box ($3.60/qt). A week ago, it increased to $40 ($4.00/qt).
So the shop is your hurricane bug-out location, and already well stocked.
Now you just need to work on building your new stash at your household location
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I wouldn’t worry too much about that. The oil that I had in my Corvette last year was 7 year old Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5w-30
Got ya beat on that.
I've used oil as much as ten years old.
No ill effects that I noticed.
Sealed in the bottle should be no problem.
Maybe more akin to a prepper?
When I was growing up it was just good sense?
Where did he make a single reference to quantity of oil hoarded and not in OCI multiples? He didn't say anything about a dozen cases. You're arguing against a strawman here.
So, where does the “10-15-20” years supply he refers to come from, if not his own strawman?
I’m trying to figure out the parameters against which he’s ranting.
Not one person has said that they keep that much.
The closest anyone every came was the guy with a hallway full of oil (and tires in his bathtub) but even he planned to flip it.
You’re right, I am, indeed, arguing against a straw man, but it’s the straw man created by @gfh77665
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You're wrong about that, I'm still using SF rated oil.
Two more thoughts -
One, I believe that the term “Hoarders” was meant in jest, or playfulness, by the OP. Nobody replying in this thread shows signs of the mental illness of true hoarding. So, ranting against people with that illness is misplaced.
Two, people who have lived through shortage, natural disaster, or uncertain times, tend to keep a bit more on hand. I used to live in hurricane country (to some extent, I still do), and shelves for essentials go bare before, and after, a storm. So, keeping some essentials on hand to weather the storm is simply being prepared.
Those who fail to prepare are foolish.
Those who have never experienced a shortage, natural disaster*, or uncertain times, are either naive or live in luxury.
*I’ll give you an example - in January, 1978, Connecticut was hit with a combination of ice storm and heavy snow. The ice storm brought down power lines and the snow made roads impassable for repair crews. The combination was so bad that the roof of the Hartford Civic Center collapsed under the weight of the ice, because the drains were blocked by the ice and snow from earlier in the storm.
We were without power for six days.
One month later, the Blizzard of ‘78 dropped nearly two feet of snow, and again, roads were impassable. The Governor declared a state of emergency, and roads were closed to private vehicles for three days. Stores, of course, were closed during that time as employees couldn’t get to work.
A “stash” of food, water, and fuel, along with survival gear like sleeping bags, flashlights, batteries, and camp stoves was not an indication of “hoarding” during those events, it was a matter of survival.
One, I believe that the term “Hoarders” was meant in jest, or playfulness, by the OP. Nobody replying in this thread shows signs of the mental illness of true hoarding. So, ranting against people with that illness is misplaced.
Two, people who have lived through shortage, natural disaster, or uncertain times, tend to keep a bit more on hand. I used to live in hurricane country (to some extent, I still do), and shelves for essentials go bare before, and after, a storm. So, keeping some essentials on hand to weather the storm is simply being prepared.
Those who fail to prepare are foolish.
Those who have never experienced a shortage, natural disaster*, or uncertain times, are either naive or live in luxury.
*I’ll give you an example - in January, 1978, Connecticut was hit with a combination of ice storm and heavy snow. The ice storm brought down power lines and the snow made roads impassable for repair crews. The combination was so bad that the roof of the Hartford Civic Center collapsed under the weight of the ice, because the drains were blocked by the ice and snow from earlier in the storm.
We were without power for six days.
One month later, the Blizzard of ‘78 dropped nearly two feet of snow, and again, roads were impassable. The Governor declared a state of emergency, and roads were closed to private vehicles for three days. Stores, of course, were closed during that time as employees couldn’t get to work.
A “stash” of food, water, and fuel, along with survival gear like sleeping bags, flashlights, batteries, and camp stoves was not an indication of “hoarding” during those events, it was a matter of survival.
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