Honda E-Clutch - How did I miss this

[DuckRyder]

So basically it is exactly that an electronic clutch that you can take over manually at any time, see:

https://powersports.honda.com/technology/e-clutch



Couple more by Visor Down, MotoBob, Motorcycle.com and others.

 

[fantastic]

From the video it appears this tech is on some really small bikes. I doubt it's on full cruiser's... that would be something to talk about. Maybe we'll have automatic transmissions eventually.

 

[DuckRyder]

It is on 500CC right now.

There is the DCT which larger bikes can be had with.

 

[Finklejag]

The CB650R is the first bike it’s on.

 

[DuckRyder]

The CB650R is the first bike it’s on.

Yup , what I get for replies from memory- currently on the 650s CBR and CB.

 

[KrisZ]

Not sure why Honda is playing with these gimmicks. Their motorcycle lineup are pretty pathetic these days, they should focus on making more exciting bikes, instead of catering to the "commuter" crowd, IMO.

 

[BigCahuna]

Didn't Honda put a DCT trans on their Goldwing in 2018 , while still offering a 5 speed manually shifted model ?.,,,

 

[DuckRyder]

Not sure why Honda is playing with these gimmicks. Their motorcycle lineup are pretty pathetic these days, they should focus on making more exciting bikes, instead of catering to the "commuter" crowd, IMO.

Not that I disagree, however i think the smaller bikes are selling better than big bikes.

Didn't Honda put a DCT trans on their Goldwing in 2018 , while still offering a 5 speed manually shifted model ?.,,,

Not positive about the year but yes, also the Africa Twin and others ... This isn't really that though,

 

[The_Sheriff]

Not that I disagree, however i think the smaller bikes are selling better than big bikes.



Not positive about the year but yes, also the Africa Twin and others ... This isn't really that though,

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I had a NC700X DCT. I really liked that transmission. I sold the bike when I moved five years ago, but I do miss it.

 

[02SE]

From the video it appears this tech is on some really small bikes. I doubt it's on full cruiser's... that would be something to talk about. Maybe we'll have automatic transmissions eventually.

A buddy of mine has a couple year old Goldwing with the DCT transmission. For all intents and purposes it is an automatic. You can leave it in auto mode, or switch to manual mode and use little switches near each handgrip, to shift up or down through the gears. There's no clutch or gearshift lever.

He loves it. He's had dirtbikes, Sportbikes, cruisers, Harleys, and a traditional transmission GL1800 Goldwing.

 

[fantastic]

A buddy of mine has a couple year old Goldwing with the DCT transmission. For all intents and purposes it is an automatic. You can leave it in auto mode, or switch to manual mode and use little switches near each handgrip, to shift up or down through the gears. There's no clutch or gearshift lever.

He loves it. He's had dirtbikes, Sportbikes, cruisers, Harleys, and a traditional transmission GL1800 Goldwing.

If I ever get another bike it would be a Goldwing. As you well know They've earned their reputation for good reason. I'll have to do some more digging on your mention of this DCT type. Sounds great. That would get more people riding too.

Just bing searched & it's a dual clutch system that uses the computer to select which gear. I'll assume there are also some sort of solenoids or motors that control the moving of gears. Pretty cool to see this on a full tour. Thanks!

 

[GSCJR]

catering to the "commuter" crowd, IMO.

This is what made Honda successful. Wasn't the first generation Accord the best selling car in the US?

 

[TurboZedd-R]

Not sure why Honda is playing with these gimmicks. Their motorcycle lineup are pretty pathetic these days, they should focus on making more exciting bikes, instead of catering to the "commuter" crowd, IMO.

Fireblade?

 

[KrisZ]

Fireblade?

At almost $30k it’s a joke. For that kind of money most will go for a Ducati or a BMW, I know I would. Heck, even Kawasaki H2 is a better proposition with the supercharged engine, if you can get past the goofy looks.

 

[Kira]

That sales video had TWO SECONDS of tech @ 0:27 to 0:29.

 

[DuckRyder]

That sales video had TWO SECONDS of tech @ 0:27 to 0:29.

As noted there are better ones on youtube, however you will have to do your own finding based on the clues. - it is the rules.

 

[barryh]

The e-clutch is obviously motor driven to disengage the clutch when changing gear but there is a lot more to it than that. It's the electronics that make it work and the ignition and fuel injection is being controlled in the same way modern car auto's synchronize gear changes with the engine power via the ECU. I would imagine it makes gear changes on the go really smooth. If there is a weakness it will be pulling away from a stop just as that scenario can be a weakness with other clutchless manual transmissions and DCT's in cars. Seems an optimum system as it retains manual control when desired and there is no efficiency loss unlike some of Honda's early attempts at auto transmission.

 

[TurboZedd-R]

At almost $30k it’s a joke. For that kind of money most will go for a Ducati or a BMW, I know I would. Heck, even Kawasaki H2 is a better proposition with the supercharged engine, if you can get past the goofy looks.

Honda is ahead of the game with the E clutch and the DCT. The next iteration is the Yamaha Y AMT, or the kawasaki hybrid with the "semi auto". All of these bikes are huge hits in Europe. I guarantee the new CBRs will be sold out within 100 miles of your house by may when riding season starts.

 

[KrisZ]

Honda is ahead of the game with the E clutch and the DCT. The next iteration is the Yamaha Y AMT, or the kawasaki hybrid with the "semi auto". All of these bikes are huge hits in Europe. I guarantee the new CBRs will be sold out within 100 miles of your house by may when riding season starts.

I don’t particularly care what they do in Europe or Asia. Those are different markets and use motorcycles differently. American market treats motorcycles as weekend toys and a hobby, not an everyday commuter.

Honda simply doesn’t have much going on in their lineup. They used to have V-twin sport bikes, V-4 bikes, some decent tourers other than the Goldwing and some decent entry level bikes too.

Now it all looks the same with little engine choices and it’s a company that’s being touted as an “engine” company. I guess they want to be known as the DCT and clutch for dummies company now. Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[TurboZedd-R]

I don’t particularly care what they do in Europe or Asia. Those are different markets and use motorcycles differently. American market treats motorcycles as weekend toys and a hobby, not an everyday commuter.

Honda simply doesn’t have much going on in their lineup. They used to have V-twin sport bikes, V-4 bikes, some decent tourers other than the Goldwing and some decent entry level bikes too.

Now it all looks the same with little engine choices and it’s a company that’s being touted as an “engine” company. I guess they want to be known as the DCT and clutch for dummies company now. Thanks, but no thanks.

They have one of the very few inline 4s in a world full of twins. Not really sure what else you would want. With $ 145.42 B in revenue I don't think they need to change much.