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Makes sense (I mistakenly assumed it probably called for 10w-40 like so many modern motorcycles do).
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Does HPL show the HTHS viscosity for their motorcycle oils?
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I’ve got an email into them, let’s see what they come back with…
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This is what they sent me a year ago when I ordered their 15w50 Moto/ATV oil.
This is what they sent me a year ago when I ordered their 15w50 Moto/ATV oil.
I am also curious about their motorcycle oil too. I have been a Redline user for years, often using their 10w40 car oil, sometimes their motorcycle oil. Never any issues with either one. Being a bit of a recent an HPL convert for my cars, I am burning through my old Redline stash in my bikes and am contemplating the oil for my new bike. The new bike (BMW M1000XR) calls for BMW's Advantec oil, but I cant bring myself to use it. BMW calls for a 5w40 JASCO MA2 oil, so for HPL, I have to decide between 5W40 Euro car oil too meet the weight, which isn't JASCO MA2, or their motorcycle oil at 10w40, missing BMW's weight. Hmmm.
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Unless it is significantly cold when using it, I can't imagine that there would be much (performance) difference between the 5w-40 and 10w-40, but I may be wrong (still very much in a learning phase).
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I find it a bit odd that BMW would call for a 5w40. Then again, it’s BMW. No offense, I just find it odd. I’d have no problem using the HPL 10w40 MATV but it’s not my bike.
The 10w-40 offering from HPL will be just fine. Run it with confidence.
You guys pushed me over the edge. I'll order some up.Thanks.
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Btw, I was only speaking about the general difference 5w-40 and 10w-40 oils in the viscosity sense-was not speaking to the particular products that are a different viscosity. Personally I would go with the HPL.
Have been reading through this thread bit by bit for the last few months, great info and awesome to see the passion HPL have in their products. Received my stash of 5w30 NO VII the other day and did my oil change yesterday.
Have been using Redline 5w30 for the last few years in my previous vehicle (2012 Camry) and it really liked it, ran much much smoother than any of the large OTC brands. Can't wait to see how HPL performs in my new vehicle, especially with hot running turbos in hot Florida summer.
Have been using Redline 5w30 for the last few years in my previous vehicle (2012 Camry) and it really liked it, ran much much smoother than any of the large OTC brands. Can't wait to see how HPL performs in my new vehicle, especially with hot running turbos in hot Florida summer.
would this oil work in Diesel applications? I have a 2006 VW TDI diesel and am trying to figure out if the NoVII is a good fit for this engine. Anyone out there use this in their diesel or have insights whether this is good?
They make a No VII Euro 10W-40 for 3rd gen ecodiesels.
Why would their HDEO line not work? Interestingly enough when I asked Dave for recommendations, he said their HDEO is the ticket for the 3.0l GM 4-cylinder in my boat. He could certainly have recommended NO-VII, yet didn’t. It’s a good bit more affordable than NO-VII too.
Their CL-4 HDEO 5w30 works well in my Dakota. Awaiting UOA of it that has 6k on it.
Direct recommendation from Dave...and it's "more affordable"...why entertain any other advice?
I’m not at all, who said I’m entertaining other advice? What I was getting at is if their HDEO is recommended for a boat motor that will see far more abuse than decreppo’s road-going car why look at a pricier oil that isn’t needed?
Indeed. Dave is very knowledgeable about what his oils are best at, and won’t oversell you. I’ve had numerous talks with Dave, and while he feels SuperCar is not only their best oil, he will only recommend what’s needed for your application. I choose to run NoVII Euro 5w30 in my tuned EcoBoost just because I know I work my turbo bearings HARD (seen 23+ psi) and the lack of VII means nothing will shear.
@wwillson ran Dave’s recommendation for over 30k miles, and other than thickening up over time (which is expected) there were no indicators of any issues. @DirectRejection has gone over 30k as well. Not every oil or application can do this, but you can rest assured there is value in every HPL offering vs. shelf oils, and you can’t go wrong with HPL’s recommendation.
Sorry, I took post #795 as a stand-alone with a question, as I hadn't remembered reading your earlier posts. I see now that you weren't entertaining other advice, it just looked that way with no historical setup.
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