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By the time the No VII PCMO is ready I’ll be done with it. Then HPL will be the fill on all my vehicles from now on
High Performance Lubricants No VII series engine oils.
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I'm running NO-VII 5W-30 Euro in my 2022 Durango 3.6 V6.
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I'm sorry to hear that. Your friend might not know what's going on in his engine and drivetrain and he's probably not pushing the vehicle that hard. Encourage him to hit the Jeep forums and other places on the Internet where enthusiasts use their vehicles to their maximum potential and he won't find many that have nice words to say about RP. I'm don't like to say anything bad about any products or how they are made, so just do a little bit of googling about RP to see what I'm talking about.
They affect the cool down time (to 10F in this case) of anything that has heat to lose.
Iwould consider this whole line Premium Plus Ultra already.
I prefer a low Noack as it indicates the use of higher quality base oils (PAO vs gpIII for example) and less VII. But in this case the actual number is not critical.
No no that’s not what he was saying he was talking about cold crank abilities of the oil not meeting the spec of -30F because of wind chill it’s just a false statement. It will only ever be 10F if you state the air temp was 10F.
exactly, but it will cool down to 10F much faster when there's wind. and heat up slower.
Again that’s not what the post was about.
No but it's ALWAYS omitted when discusiing wind chill. Wind chill affects anything that is hotter than ambient, until it isn't anymore. Claiming otherwise or not acknowledging this shows the limit of your understanding.
All my I did was complete the statement about how windchiull works, it was only half complete.
I know what wind chills effect and don’t effect to make claims otherwise is misinformation It will end with that.
ZDDP is an anti oxidant and fule is very easy to oxidise. This is why zddp gets used up fighting oxidation rather than wear.
Thinking on this, I have HPL Euro 5W40 in the Sportwagen now and will have 2 HPDE track days on it coming up in Feb - I tried to run it at the track for the last year but kept getting foiled (ARGH!) with repairs prior to both events I did that forced an oil change each time to what my shop uses (LM - of course fine to use/no issues). I'll run this current Euro 5W40 fill out to 5K total (has about <1K on it now I believe) and then I think I'll order some of the Euro 5W30 No-VII and try that for a track event...be fun and interesting to compare UOAs for both and see which one had the higher ending viscosity. I realize that the standard Euro 5W40 has excellent ("star"?) VIIs in it but I still see a drop down into the 30W range in my daily driving with it which I know could just be fuel-related...still need to work that out and get a real test to see how much gas I have vs. Blackstone's inference method based on flash point. Always fun to try new stuff regardless! I have 2 more changes worth of the Euro 5W40 but can always use that in my W8 Passat which I was planning to swap over to HPL anyway next change...that car could probably do a 2 year OCI (~6K miles) on the HPL oil with no issue and the additionally cleaning capabilities of that oil in the 4.0L W8 engine would be a good thing to help keep those cam adjusters happy and trouble-free!
Based on the testing we did with you with a custom made product I am pretty confident that the viscosity loss you are seeing is a combination of residual thin oil lowering the initial charge and then diluting in service. And as been correctly pointed out fuel is going to dilute any oil. That being true is why your results (nicely published) are so similar across brands.
I don’t believe in your case, shear is the elephant in the room.
I would say I your case I’d rather see the 40 vis to allow for the known dilution that will still be there.
David
Thanks for the sage advice David.
He does drive it hard. In fact, he drives it like every one on the road is trying to race him. I get it. I had a fun to drive car once. Well, I still do but it need a lot of work. But he did his own research and thinks that RP is the best option for him and there is no changing his mind.
I will approach it with him again but I don't expect a different answer.
Sometimes...
We are all stubborn is some ways. I am too in my own way.
Subaru owners.....hits vape.....uses RP. J/K of course! He hasn't heard of HPL on the forums/FB groups I'm sure and the group think will say one thing. It's like Liquimoly with the Euro crowd. His car will probably run it's life out on RP with no issues.
HPL gift cards are going to be available when?
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