By a UOA
I’m running here HPL NO VII 5w20 so far with zero issues; cold weather doesn’t bother duratech 2.0 engines.
High Performance Lubricants No VII series engine oils.
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I’m running here HPL NO VII 5w20 so far with zero issues; cold weather doesn’t bother duratech 2.0 engines.
I had put the No VII 5w20 Euro in the 2020 Transit Connect with the 2.0 Duratec we had. Was about 6k into the OCI when we sold it, so no objective data other than it didn’t use any oil at all during that time, and there was no mileage impact… although I attribute the latter more to my wife’s driving habits rather than the expected decrease caused by higher HTHS.
I’d routinely get 1.5-2 full mpg better than she did when we would drive equivalent distances and the same route (my numbers matching the EPA hwy numbers, hers much closer to all city driving). It appears she doesn’t understand the physics behind coasting
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What do you want to know? It starts off with their typically stout oil package, and then lumps in additional antioxidants to deal with the high temperatures and harsh environment. I’ve got it in my Ariens ZT and it’s been fine so far, 10w40 here but they’ve done a couple other grades IIRC.
Mainly is Honda oil worth ordering or is there a good off the shelf oil for an air cooled engine
Can’t say anything bad about Honda oil because I haven’t researched it. But I have used both Amsoil and HPL small-engine-specific oils and have nothing but praise for both of them. Either one is definitely top-shelf protection for hardworking air cooled engines.
Both of those companies also sell hydrostatic fluids, and while Amsoil performed well and looked brand new at 135 hours, the HPL hydro oil has less pump whine.
I’m probably over thinking the issue since I ran a Kubota lawn tractor for 22 years 14hp Kawasaki engine on off the shelf motor oil with no issues what so ever. But, I’d like to think an air cooled engine would benefit from a robust oil designed for the high temps
Triple_Se7en
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I agree - with a slightly different spin. The Dexos 1 G2/3 of Red Line is junk.
Triple_Se7en
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The inexpensive PCMO is not GF6a / SP / D1 G3.
But I had my fingers crossed and toes too.
Wouldn’t call it junk but it’s just rebottled Phillips 66/Motorcraft with the Redline Label on the bottle
Triple_Se7en
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Maybe you missed the member quote above my 11:37AM post. That's the only reason I used the word 'junk'.
I'm much like you and can bear with the Phillips 66 ties to that particular Red Line oil grade / viscosity. I am fine with anyone running Dexos 1 oils, even though I only shop for SP cert oils for our HyunKia's..
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How cold does it get there ?
In the garage most of the time. Coldest start would be maybe 10 degrees if parked outside. Lots of long trips at 75 plus mph.
Long OCI isn’t worth it IMHO.The sad thing is that some BITOGers are going to use these fantastic new products, and yet still OCI every 5k miles .... because it's "cheap insurance".
Triple_Se7en
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My $220 investment for three different six months 3k OCIs is still much-much longer than the husband & wife with two teenage daughters celebrating a birthday at a Steak House and watching their identical money investment end abruptly at the last bite one hour later.
Heck that $220 is a typical 20 day investment for cigarettes. booze or pot. in many cases where a crutch is needed in life
End-result?..... never-ever say that the way you want to use HPL in length is the only right way. This is not an investment that's about money spent for it (divided by) days, weeks, months or mileage accrued. It's all about performance and I've already spent big-bucks prior on an oil brand name that failed me.
This is why I'm waiting until the next HPL Sale in 2025. If HPL fails me in Fall / Winter of 2024, that signals the end for any expensive boutique oils purchases in my future. I'll go back to Mobil-1 EP
However, I'm confident HPL will become the best oil I ever purchased, ever since I bought my first car in 1969.
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I wonder if the HPL oils would have any less build up on DI intake valves?
With high solvency base oils they use (AN/ester) in theory they should. Low Noack too. However they do use an insane amount of Ca/Mg.
Triple_Se7en
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Calcium is not high in what I purchased.
5w30 Performance Plus
10w30 No VII.
Had it been, I would have Passed.
I do know Performance Plus is ester-enriched and No VII is enriched with PAO. A Boatload of Magnesium in both.
Members here have already emailed me to make sure I provide a VOA / UOA of a frankenblend of both used together 50-50. That will get a lot of looks and replies next year.
I've been losing sleep just thinking about it.
Signed
Dr. Joe Frankenblend
5w30 Performance Plus
10w30 No VII.
Had it been, I would have Passed.
I do know Performance Plus is ester-enriched and No VII is enriched with PAO. A Boatload of Magnesium in both.
Members here have already emailed me to make sure I provide a VOA / UOA of a frankenblend of both used together 50-50. That will get a lot of looks and replies next year.
I've been losing sleep just thinking about it.
Signed
Dr. Joe Frankenblend
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