I Have heard good results with the High Mileage oils...I have a Toyota 3.0 V6...Which one has the best package between MOBIL, VALVOLINE or CASTROL....THanks
HIGH MILAGE OIL...WHICH ONE?
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My vote would go to castrol of the three you named. But I think that Pennzoil High Mileage would be my first choice.
Why Pennzoil High Mileage ?
Because it has the best additive package and best base oil of all the name brand High Mileage oils.
I'm currently using Supertech High Mileage Synthetic Blend in my Olds van (146,000 miles). Made by Warren Dist, this oil has a good add pack, good specs, and some Group III base oil in it. And it's less expensive than the name brand High Mileage oils which are all Group II or Group I/II.
Maybe I should have said which High Mileage oils have the best package....Best quality package....Thanks for the reply...trying minimize alittle oil burning and quite down lifter noise. I have heard good things about Castrol....I have always used Valvoline, but reading some posts I guess its not as good oil as it used to be.
I agree with using Castrol High Mileage. Castrol's dino products continue to impress me (I won't touch the GroupIII/IV debate with a 10-foot pole).
Recent UOA of Castrol's GTX at 7300 miles, a Honda 4cyl using Castrol High Mileage at 9,200 miles (a bit too far in my estimation) show that their conventional oils last way beyond 3K.
Has anyone tried the Havoline/Chevron HM products?
Recent UOA of Castrol's GTX at 7300 miles, a Honda 4cyl using Castrol High Mileage at 9,200 miles (a bit too far in my estimation) show that their conventional oils last way beyond 3K.
Has anyone tried the Havoline/Chevron HM products?
For lifter noise & some oil comsumption, the High Mileage oils at the higher end of the viscosity grade are probably a good choice.
Here are the viscosities for the brands previously mentioned, with the exception of Castrol. Can't find data sheets for Castrol.
Here are the viscosities for the brands previously mentioned, with the exception of Castrol. Can't find data sheets for Castrol.
The Pennzoil & Chevron/Havoline High Mileage oils are definitely thicker oils and are closer to the 12.5 rating of an SAE 30 straight weight than the standard 5w30 ratings of the 10.2/10.8 range.
What about Quaker State High Mileage 10w30...?(The RED bottle) Is it the same as Pennzoil High Mileage? I ask because a local store is clearing it out for $ 1.00 a bottle, and I couldn't resist...!
If your suggesting it's comprised entirely of group II or II+ base oil I recommend taking a look at the MSDS .
I like the Mobil High Mileage blend, it has some PAO and nice additive pack and the Citgo Ultra Life " 200ppm boron " and look forward to seeing the Havoline High Mileage Syn Blend when it becomes available even though it might have group III instead of PAO , were talking lower cost oils here and all around 2 bucks a quart .
The Castrol looks weak on paper but does very well as does the Pennzoil High Mileage
Had a 96 Mazda B4000 (Ford engine) with about 150,000 on it. It had the valve tap on startup (no matter what filter). Put the Castrol High Mileage 10w30 in it and it never did it again. Put 20,000+ more miles on it b4 trading it in (man I miss that truck). Just from my own experience the Castrol works well.
I have had the best luck with Valvoline MaxLife for stopping leaks. For enigne noise and oil consumption, most definately the Castrol High Mileage. The Castrol High Mileage even seemed to flow well in the cold!
I keep forgetting about the Maxlife . It has PAO , always a good price on it in the 5 quart jugs and some reasonably good used oil analysis .
One things for sure . These makers are not copy cats . They all seem to go about making these oils a bit different .
I want to see the Exxon High Mileage oil now .
One things for sure . These makers are not copy cats . They all seem to go about making these oils a bit different .
I want to see the Exxon High Mileage oil now .
That Supertech High Mileage Blend looks like a good value oil to me .
By chance are you going to do a used oil analysis on it ?
Hey Motorbike- Is the maxlife the only one to have PAO? It is what, ~22% PAO? They told me they use a true synthetic to get the seal conditioners to the leaks....maybe that is what does it?.. I saw great UOA wear in a Sebring 2.5 (same engine) from the winter months with the 5w30 maxlife, but it had some bearing wear, which was attributed to it being too thin, hence I opted for the 10/30 for the summer. I know the Valvoline conventional is not well regarded, but the maxlife formulas seem to be a total different oil. What do you think? I am actually using the regular maxlife 10/30 in the Stratus 2.5 V6 right now. It isn't leaking or even over the 75000 mile mark, but it should clean up the engine and such, right? Besides, like you said, with the good price on it, it's a good deal!! (the regular maxlife probably has more PAO than the synthetic group III maxlife, lol) But the Castrol High Mileage oils really have helped consumption issues! We haven't seen the repairing of leaks fixed at all with the Castrol High Mileage, but everything else is great. And the Valvoline MaxLife seems to fix leaks the best but maybe run on the thinner side for a High Mileage oil.
The PAO is for enhanced cold weather performance for the most part .Think of it as an additive here but the PAO does not help seals in a High Mileage oil .
I'm not certain all these High Mileage oils for sure even use a small amount of Ester basestock for seal conditioning at this point .I think there are around 4-7 additives and mixes of them used for the seals to include special VII's.
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I ran Castrol 5w30 GTX High Mileage in my mom's car last year and it did pretty well. It was only in use for 2350 miles, but the time period was 7 months.
At the end of it her TBN was very good at 8.8! (and this is with the lower D4739 method too!)
Here is her report:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001016
At the end of it her TBN was very good at 8.8! (and this is with the lower D4739 method too!)
Here is her report:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001016
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