Helping Syrian Refugees: Rich Gulf Countries???

[Kamele0N]

Originally Posted By: Kamele0N
And.....I forgot to mention....that purchase was done with permit of USA....

"enemy of my enemy is my friend press"

Dunno why on earth western world will otherwise support islamist (FSA)


Well 75 loads of "cargo"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...ugh-Zagreb.html

 

[GiveMeAVowel]

Israel is clearly aiding ISIS, and other terrorist organizations, destroying their neighbors nations, and will continue to do so until they get their "greater Israel".

The Israelis are trying to drain those nations in the middle east of people so they can have the land without much resistance.

presstv

israel aids isis in syria

 

[ExMachina]

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/...k-of-terrorism/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worl...yrias-refugees/

"To these countries, letting in more foreigners doesn't just mean sharing the (shrinking) oil wealth, but increasing the potential for political, ethnic and sectarian tension.
The fine distinctions of politics and faith, which are often invisible to Westerners, matter in the Middle East. They produce wars that are as devastating as they are difficult for outsiders to comprehend. "
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-09-04/why-don-t-gulf-states-accept-more-refugees-

OK, I'm a little closer to understanding, not much, maybe a little.

 

[kozanoglu]

It is your declared so called values that makes it imperative to accept refugees, OP. When you do not you are declaring you do not have those values. Europe owes it to humanity.

Frau Merkel is complaining because a measly 12000 refugees have arrived this year. Germany should be able to accept 4 million refugees at once and not worry about anything. Poor Turkey has spent $6 billion for refugees. Germans can do better, they should do better.

Do not worry about the refugees 'values' , worry about your own, the lack of.

 

[CT8]

Originally Posted By: Kamele0N
Originally Posted By: Shannow


If they are choosing where to escape to, I can see no-one wanting to go to a country where they routinely behead, stone, chop off hands etc.


Well....you can find many clips on youtube how they want to implement sharia law here in EU....

Just type in "sharia for...." in youtube and you will se what am I talking about

They want to go back to stone age....
What will be interesting is that when Sharia becomes the law of the lane and all gays, transgendered etc that voted for the politicians that pandered to them to get their votes will be the politicians that will sell them out. Sharia doesn't make provisions for other than man and woman relationships.

 

[Al]

They need to fix their own [censored] instead of running away. Thankfully the founding patriots were of a better stock.

 

[Whitewolf]

Originally Posted By: ExMachina
Not political, just a humanitarian question: What is keeping the oil-rich Persian Gulf countries from helping, housing, welcoming Syrian people fleeing pain due to genocide/war ?
I've been trying to understand the logical humanitarian reasons (don't make this political, just a reasonable discussion about what keeps them from spending their vast amounts of wealth on helping their fellow neighbors, not political).

That's why they are not true refugees. Refugees go to the nearest safe country and that's it. These are economic migrants.

 

[shDK]

Originally Posted By: kozanoglu
It is your declared so called values that makes it imperative to accept refugees, OP. When you do not you are declaring you do not have those values. Europe owes it to humanity.

Frau Merkel is complaining because a measly 12000 refugees have arrived this year. Germany should be able to accept 4 million refugees at once and not worry about anything. Poor Turkey has spent $6 billion for refugees. Germans can do better, they should do better.

Do not worry about the refugees 'values' , worry about your own, the lack of.


1. What is it Europe owe to humanity. And why?

2. If you where to invite strengere to your home. Would you not care about there values?

 

[Al]

Originally Posted By: kozanoglu
It is your declared so called values that makes it imperative to accept refugees, OP. When you do not you are declaring you do not have those values. Europe owes it to humanity.
Frau Merkel is complaining because a measly 12000 refugees have arrived this year. Germany should be able to accept 4 million refugees at once and not worry about anything. Poor Turkey has spent $6 billion for refugees. Germans can do better, they should do better.
Do not worry about the refugees 'values' , worry about your own, the lack of.

I assume this is a trolling post. A sane thinking person can't possibly believe this.

 

[Vuflanovsky]

It remains to be seen how the EU countries will handle these people in terms of being actual refugees or economic migrants. I would probably agree that these people are in transit and not in a classical sense refugees.

If there are 11 million homeless in Syria alone then the world community has to do SOMETHING to avoid an even worse humanitarian crisis. If the expectation of these people is to have new lives in the EU countries or abroad, then this is unrealistic and needs leadership ( not politics ) to set the appropriate expectation. How easy a trip is this for jihadis and facilitators?? Will this be a amplified version of what went on with the Turks in Germany?? These people may not be friends of your society in multifaceted ways, so there would be deep economic and social costs associated with keeping them.

I'm all for helping them but not for assimilating people that may not want to become assimilated and create considerable friction in the society. A group hug today is one thing but the picture of admitting millions of these people may not be pretty after 5-10 years.

 

[chrisri]

France and UK are going down to stop this madness. On news they said that they will bomb until militants are destroyed. Finally some sense from EU.

 

[GiveMeAVowel]

Originally Posted By: chrisri
France and UK are going down to stop this madness. On news they said that they will bomb until militants are destroyed. Finally some sense from EU.


The US and israel will not be happy since ISIS is THEIR terrorist organization.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: chrisri
France and UK are going down to stop this madness. On news they said that they will bomb until militants are destroyed. Finally some sense from EU.


The US and israel will not be happy since ISIS is THEIR terrorist organization.


Pretty much.

The military industrial complex has learned that in order to grow they must first destabilize a region in order to stabilize it.
There is ample evidence to support this. The cia covertly funds and arms various organizations the American gubment calls terrorists and have their hands dirty in many acts of terror on sovereign and allied nations,so the Europeans might get more than they bargained for.
I'm all for it. These so called refugees should be sent to the country that caused their nightmare.
It's sad when Kaddaffi and his regime is BETTER than what is now there.
But American politicians pushing their idea of freedom and democracy has once again destroyed a country and the rest of the world is stuck with the mess.
When will the voters clue in that their government is broken,and no amount of voting in someone else is going to fix it.
Revolution or collapse.

 

[Azeem]

Originally Posted By: Kamele0N
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: shDK

For some reason. I Don,t see a need to call yourself a refugee when you can actually Just go back.


Exactly.

This and other things like witnesses in countries like nations like
Slovakia, Hungary stating they have seen mostly well dressed,
healthy young men age early 20s-30, with at least 100-200 Euros
and these "migrants" claiming when questioned that they paid huge amounts of money to smugglers to get them their. There is MUCH more to this story. I consider it an invasion of illegal alien enemies into Europe.

From the looks of it, they are single young males obviously on their own, most of the older folks in these countries won't go anywhere because they just would rather die where they have lived all their lives so what they do is give their life saving to the younger ones and ask them to find a way out of the plight-some will do and some won't.the married ones would would be fleeing with the wives and kids.That could be an explanation!

 

[Dave Hess]

Israel is America's puppet.

We pull all the strings.

 

[chrisri]

We could see for the first place time from the ww2 that EU is going separate way from USA when all big EU nations joined Asian Bank, or China Bank to be precise. Biggest surprise was that firt was UK to join, historically greatest US ally and , of course, cousins. They (UK) openly said in response to American pressure against joining that it's in the best interest of UK, and that no one will be architect of British foreign policy.

In reality France was only real US opposition in Europe since 1945. I think that these military interventions are just further steps in finding their own way for solving problems. Only thing that was needed to wakeup was million of possible immigrants, and effectively end of Europe as we know it.

 

[Al]

Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Israel is America's puppet.

We pull all the strings.

They have 100+ nukes and are more than capable of keeping the ragheads at bay. We should be glad they have the ballz to do what we can't and won't (for the next 1 1/2 years.)

 

[dishdude]

Originally Posted By: Al

They have 100+ nukes and are more than capable of keeping the ragheads at bay. We should be glad they have the ballz to do what we can't and won't (for the next 1 1/2 years.)


We send Israel how many billions in aid per year? They have their own money and weapons, they don't need ours. We also have no business being in the middle east - they need to fight that war out for themselves.

 

[kozanoglu]

Originally Posted By: shDK
Originally Posted By: kozanoglu
It is your declared so called values that makes it imperative to accept refugees, OP. When you do not you are declaring you do not have those values. Europe owes it to humanity.

Frau Merkel is complaining because a measly 12000 refugees have arrived this year. Germany should be able to accept 4 million refugees at once and not worry about anything. Poor Turkey has spent $6 billion for refugees. Germans can do better, they should do better.

Do not worry about the refugees 'values' , worry about your own, the lack of.


1. What is it Europe owe to humanity. And why?

2. If you where to invite strengere to your home. Would you not care about there values?


Syrian borders were drawn by Europe, the dictatorship installed by Europe, when people revolted against the butcher it was Europe who watched passively if not by giving standing ovation to the Chemical Assad.

Europe has the NAZI past to account for.

If you do not want the fire to spill over to your home do something to put it out. Have you?

 

[Al]

Originally Posted By: dishdude


We send Israel how many billions in aid per year? They have their own money and weapons, they don't need ours. We also have no business being in the middle east - they need to fight that war out for themselves.

The are the reason the area is not in flames. Worth every cent to me for that service.

They will take Iran out when they feel they have developed a credible nuclear threat. Count on it...its not even in doubt. We don't have the kahunias to do it "now"

Remember the Reactor Iraq used to have??