Helping Syrian Refugees: Rich Gulf Countries???

[Claud]

Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
The sad thing is these folks simply must be taken in somewhere. Otherwise they likely die.

Since European countries are there, guess where they are going?

There ate 7.3 Billion people in a world than can only sustain half that in comfort. As people keep over breeding there are no happy solutions. The choice may be to die where you are or die fleeing.

Of course the obvious answer is for these people to change their country but don't expect that anytime soon.

75,000 impoverished people die every day. A good percentage because of the conditions. You don't see that in the headlines.


Well it's time to get hard nosed about it, instead of helping the refugees run away help them fight back against their oppressors. It will be nasty, bloody and violent.
Have we been there before?. I remember, 1939 for us, 1941 for the USA. It was nasty, bloody and violent. It didn't end in a perfect world, far from it, but it was a better place than if Nazi Germany and the Japanese militia had held sway.

Claud.

 

[GiveMeAVowel]

Originally Posted By: CT8

It is happening in these United State as well. The illegal aliens are sucking at the taxpayers teat till it is sucked dry.


Yes, most US citizens don't understand that a war is being waged against us by our own leaders. ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL. The fact that these leaders fail to enforce laws designed to protect our borders from invasion (even of unarmed alien peoples) is TREASONOUS and TYRANNY.

 

[shDK]

Originally Posted By: Claud
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
The sad thing is these folks simply must be taken in somewhere. Otherwise they likely die.

Since European countries are there, guess where they are going?

There ate 7.3 Billion people in a world than can only sustain half that in comfort. As people keep over breeding there are no happy solutions. The choice may be to die where you are or die fleeing.

Of course the obvious answer is for these people to change their country but don't expect that anytime soon.

75,000 impoverished people die every day. A good percentage because of the conditions. You don't see that in the headlines.


Well it's time to get hard nosed about it, instead of helping the refugees run away help them fight back against their oppressors. It will be nasty, bloody and violent.
Have we been there before?. I remember, 1939 for us, 1941 for the USA. It was nasty, bloody and violent. It didn't end in a perfect world, far from it, but it was a better place than if Nazi Germany and the Japanese militia had held sway.

Claud.


Speaking of history. It is likely to be repeating. Right wing parties are growing in most of Europe. People are getting angry. If not the European Leaders react in time. This might end very very ugly.

 

[CourierDriver]

Originally Posted By: shDK
First off all it is very hard for this not getting political.

I live in Denmark at the top og mainland western Europe. We are getting refugees aswell as the rest of Europe.

All refugees witch life is in danger must be provided smelter, food and a decent living. But it is important to remember that they are refugees and not immigrants.Therefore when things have stabilized, they must return.

My own country as most other western european countries have for some times bin facing the troubles caused by massive imigration from the middle east and north africa. Extremely high crime rates, only 1/5 work. Those are only a couple of example.

Europe simple cannot integrate that high numbers of immigrants from the middle east. Countries will collaps. I personally i feel no responsebility for the Syrien was.

I know some will see me as the dewil in person for saying that. But is true.
I agree with you...

 

[DeepFriar]

The same question could be asked about a longer standing problem. The money has always existed in the GCC to have paid a good living to every Palestinian or immigration so that none would live in poverty. Instead they pay to help keep them cooped up in Gaza. They do not want these people among them due to what someone else already said. They would be a destabilizing menace. So much for their supposed hospitality.

 

[Nate1979]

Why would they want them? Tell them to fix their country instead of running away.

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
I'll tell you one thing, Europe should not take ANY of these
refugees as they didn't cause the collapse of Syria, Iraq, ect, that was done by the US military acting as a proxy for israel.
You're delusional. Get treatment. If you claim the current administration is a friend of Israel you're worse than that.

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: DeepFriar
The same question could be asked about a longer standing problem. The money has always existed in the GCC to have paid a good living to every Palestinian or immigration so that none would live in poverty. Instead they pay to help keep them cooped up in Gaza. They do not want these people among them due to what someone else already said. They would be a destabilizing menace. So much for their supposed hospitality.
You have mentioned an "inconvenient truth" . Much of what goes on there is as a result of the simple fact that the various sects HATE each other. Playing nicey nice with them is a waste if time.

 

[fdcg27]

The rich Arab states regard the poor Arab states with disdain, although they may share the same cultures and religious beliefs.
The primary distinction between the two is that the rich states have plenty of oil and small populations of persons granted citizenship while the poorer ones lack oil and have larger populations.
The rich states are also facing the rude surprise of the return of persistently cheap oil.
Saudi Arabia and Bahrain both need oil prices north of sixty dollars a barrel to balance their current accounts, but those prices are high enough to maintain continued supply and exploration of fracked oil in the US.
As a consequence, flooding the market with oil has served only to reduce OPEC incomes while failing to kill off enhanced recovery operators in North America.
The return of Iran to the open market in a major way over the next five years won't help, either.
The rich Arab states also lack the level of political maturity found in the EU. They lack the sense of responsibility to fellow human beings that we commonly expect in the West.
In short, we can expect the rich Arab world to avert its eyes from the plight of their poorer brothers.
It should also be said that if the US had left Iraq alone, much of the current turmoil would have been avoided.

 

[GiveMeAVowel]

Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
I'll tell you one thing, Europe should not take ANY of these
refugees as they didn't cause the collapse of Syria, Iraq, ect, that was done by the US military acting as a proxy for israel.
You're delusional. Get treatment. If you claim the current administration is a friend of Israel you're worse than that.


There is continuity even if you don't see it publicly. The theater is that they are not, but in fact they most certainly are. Lots of the cabinet are either of the tribe or dual citizens.

 

[Vern_in_IL]

You should be thankful that *any* of these countries that *even* accept refugees.

They were not established by immigrants/refugees, do not compare these nations to the U.S. with your Western thinking.

 

[Dave Hess]

I still don't understand why many refugees want to go to Germany. Sure its better than a war zone, but how soon will their welcome be short lived ?

 

[Benito]

Many Germans are being very welcoming of the refugees.

A trend that started there and also in Finland is that people have decided to directly give refugees a room or two in their houses. In Germany they receive some money from the government to help. This is significantly cheaper than having the government provide housing and it helps integrate the refugees quickly into a completely new culture.

A while back I discovered that Austria has large number of Muslims so that is perhaps another reason that many want to go there as well. They'll probably stay away from France because the Muslims there are not so well liked plus they are from North Africa / Algeria.

 

[GiveMeAVowel]

Merkel is basically holding out a sign that says "welcome
everything is free"!

The overwhelming silent majority of the German People are NOT happy about this and in fact are outraged, but you will never hear about it because the mamie stream media censors this.
Because who do you think is going to pay for all of these FREE
THINGS for these illegal aliens?



This clip was from years ago, yet listen carefully.

 

[Jetronic]

Germany is the closest West-European country that will accept the illegals and give them asylum. There are other countries, but it means crossing more borders and a bigger chance of getting stopped.

There's also work in Germany for unskilled labour.

 

[Kamele0N]

Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
I still don't understand why many refugees want to go to Germany. Sure its better than a war zone, but how soon will their welcome be short lived ?


Because they are (mostly) smelling money....

http://www.thelocal.dk/20150723/smugglers-help-refugees-compare-european-benefits

 

[Kamele0N]

Originally Posted By: madRiver
I think Saudi and the other rich Arab countries send massive amount of money to refugees. However in places like Kuwait, Quatar and other real rich countries foreigners outnumber the citizens so they only issue temporary visas nothing permanent.


Yeah...something like that

They are supporting islamists (FSA)

http://www.france24.com/en/20130308-syria-arab-league-arming-rebel-forces-opposition-coalition

 

[Kamele0N]

Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
Great Britain , bless their hearts took in a large amount of unnamed people and look at the mess they are in now. The world is changing the whole demographic structure over night and it will come back to haunt us, wait and see, it will not be a pretty picture, oh yea, Mary Poppins, she left town , a long time ago, just saying...


Originally Posted By: shDK
First off all it is very hard for this not getting political.

I live in Denmark at the top og mainland western Europe. We are getting refugees aswell as the rest of Europe.

All refugees witch life is in danger must be provided smelter, food and a decent living. But it is important to remember that they are refugees and not immigrants.Therefore when things have stabilized, they must return.

My own country as most other western european countries have for some times bin facing the troubles caused by massive imigration from the middle east and north africa. Extremely high crime rates, only 1/5 work. Those are only a couple of example.

Europe simple cannot integrate that high numbers of immigrants from the middle east. Countries will collaps. I personally i feel no responsebility for the Syrien was.

I know some will see me as the dewil in person for saying that. But is true.


I hope that Mods will allow my post here....

I will say just......so much about their integration here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CavFGL1m0EU&index=11&list=PL5CE90236716A3C27

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/6001...Mohammed-Emwazi

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/5554...Europe-Refugees

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-105630/Refugees-allowed-Italy-threat-drown-babies.html

The future is not bright I think

Bunch of Al Bundys...

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/50071/Sniffer-dogs-offend-Muslims

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2796/muslims-ban-dogs-europe

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ng-Muslims.html

Dutch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ky2H7dr8-g

 

[Silk]

There has been public pressure on our government to up our refugee quota, and yesterday they did...by 100. We are a small country, and a long way from these problems, I don't know the logistics of getting a small number here. I pity Greece, this is the one place that doesn't need this, they can't get themselves out of trouble, and then they have to deal with all these people flooding in.

 

[Shannow]

Oz is seeing that many refugees go country shopping, passing through many areas that are "safe" to try to get to the place that they find most desirable.

Can be seen recently in Europe too.

If they are choosing where to escape to, I can see no-one wanting to go to a country where they routinely behead, stone, chop off hands etc.