Help Decide Which Winter Tires for '18 Civic

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The fiancee and I took a quick trip up to Northern Indiana (Warsaw) over the weekend to visit her family, and ran into what was, for me, pretty nerve-wracking driving conditions on the way back. As we were coming into Indy, it started snowing, and, with the temps having been around 30 degrees for a while, it was sticking. Things got pretty slick quickly, and there were quite a few accidents.

We were in her 2018 Civic LX Hatchback 1.5T 6-speed. Her car came with 215/50-17s with Hankook Synergy all-seasons, I believe, but I bought a set of the 235/40-18 "Sport" wheels with Goodyear all-seasons from a buddy who bought a Civic Si and immediately put aftermarket wheels on it.

We had the 18" wheels on it for this trip. They were not at all confidence-inspiring when things got slick.

We'll be making several trips back and forth between Nashville and Warsaw between now and when we get married in April, and some trips by herself also. She's a good driver, and I have confidence in her ability in the snow and ice, but I've made the decision to buy a set of winter tires to mount on the factory 17" wheels, and my plan is to put those on her car when she/we drive up there, for some extra capability when the weather turns bad (which it often does up there).

So, as I saw someone mention on one of the other threads about winter tires (I think it was the one about the new Blizzak WS90), all our driving won't be on snow and ice. There will obviously be times when she might make a trip up there and I'll throw the winter tires on as a precaution if there's a chance of foul weather, but I still want her car to handle well and brake well in the dry or wet.

So what should I get?
 
Blizzaks. No question.

Have had 4 sets on different vehicles and have never noticed slippage or unsure footing until the tires were 2/32 (hung onto one set far too long).
 
Originally Posted by john_pifer
Originally Posted by Quattro Pete
I'd be looking at Conti Viking 7.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...contact-7-comes-to-n-america#Post5002230


OK, why would you get that over one of the many other options?

It's been getting a lot of positive feedback:
https://alltyretests.com/continental-vikingcontact-7-test-review/

http://www.skstuds.ca/2019/02/14/2018s-best-the-latest-and-greatest-winter-tires-tested-by-the-naf/

And it's reasonably priced, although that may depend on size.
 
The vikingcontact 7's are good, (have them on 2020 elantra)
blizzak ws-90 too new to tell yet. (had ws-70,ws-80, dm-v2 on various cars)
michelin xice xi3 are good but due for a refresh.

you might find a super deal on the closeout continental wintercontact si
they arent class leading anymore but still an above average winter tire.

anything name brand will be lightyears ahead of all-seasons.. find a good deal on a top tire and dont worry about which one.

Usually I would skip hankook, kumho, and other second tier tires for winter tires... but there are a few specific models that are decent.
 
For excellent snow and ice performance, I would suggest Blizzaks. With that said, Blizzaks and other similar winter tires can be very soft if the weather warms up. For that reason, you may want to consider a snowflake rated (not just M+S) all-weather tire. That would give you good snow performance, and at the same time, you wouldn't have to worry about them melting away as soon as the temperature increases.
 
The real mistake was going with the wider tires. They're basically just for looks. Wider tires are worse in the snow and rain. Less weight per square inch and they float on the snow/rain/ice instead of cutting through it with thinner tires. Get the thinnest tires that are factory for that car.
 
Why don't you just get a set of Toyo Celsius for the 17's and call it a day? None of this swapping out every time she heads north nonsense, just put them on now and leave them on until March/April.

Toyo Celsius
 
For winter dry & wet, with occasional snow, I would look at Performance Winter tires.

iirc, Nexen Winguard Sport 2 got rated pretty highly by consumer reports (I've had their previous generation version, and had no complaints about it).

Or you can look into using an All-weather tire as your winter tire, and there's more options available on Tirerack for this type of tire.
 
For your usage, I'd get what Tire Rack calls "performance winter" tires because they will have better dry and wet performance.

Here are the ones I could find in the size 215/50-17:
Nexen Winguard Sport
Kumho WIntercraft WP72
Hankook W320
Falken Eurowinter HS449
Pirelli Sottozero
Vredestein Wintrac Pro
ContiWinterContact TS850P (available from 1010tires, a Canadian site, shipping to the US $15/tire, out of stock right now)

You could also use the Nokian WRG4 as a winter tire. They call it an all-weather tire, but this particular one is much more focused towards winter usage
 
Originally Posted by Quattro Pete
I'd be looking at Conti Viking 7.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...contact-7-comes-to-n-america#Post5002230

Or what the Viking7s are replacing, Continental Winter Contact Si. Very good winter tire which you can probably get at a nice price since it's an older model. Blizzaks are pretty good but they apparently wear down quickly especially if you run them in temps above 40f degrees.
 
If money not an issue, my first choice would be Nokians. Otherwise the advice here is good..michelin xice,contis, or blizzaks, all good choices. I have conti wintercontact si's on my venza...but too new to judge them yet...
 
Originally Posted by 14Accent
Why don't you just get a set of Toyo Celsius for the 17's and call it a day? None of this swapping out every time she heads north nonsense, just put them on now and leave them on until March/April.

Toyo Celsius


Your idea is tempting...

Who here has run an "all-season" or an "all-weather" with the Mountain Snowflake logo, vs. a true winter/snow tire?

What kind of performance differences we talking about?
 
The ALL WEATHER category is the latest trend in tires. These tires are designed to be " ok ... " in the winter, but provide reasonable wear for year round use. Winter performance is better than an average all season tire in extreme winter conditions, but not as good as a dedicated winter tire. In summer, they will perform fine, but wear out quicker than an all season or summer tire, but last much longer than a winter tire run year round.

Some examples:

Goodyear ...

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Assurance+WeatherReady

Firestone ...

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=WeatherGrip

Toyo ...

https://www.toyotires.com/tire/pattern/all-weather-tire-celsius-variable-conditions

Nokian ...

https://www.nokiantires.com/all-weather-tires/nokian-wr-g4/

Michelin ...

https://www.michelinman.com/tires/cross-climate/cross-climate-plus.html
 
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