I consider myself an automobilestrian.
Had someone brake check me while on the bicycle this afternoon.
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Glad you are okay.
You acted well with terrible situation. We have local hot head guys in packs on bikes who don’t.
My daughter’s HS friend got paid by one to not post / delete a career destroying video. His cooler pack members talked him down.
You acted well with terrible situation. We have local hot head guys in packs on bikes who don’t.
My daughter’s HS friend got paid by one to not post / delete a career destroying video. His cooler pack members talked him down.
It’s all Disney till the hurtling though the air,doesn’t anyone watch the police chase videos? Every state has posted them.We are rural but only 30 miles from Madison and have watched more then our fair share of chases through our area.Here the police let them run and won’t stop them till they crash into someone or something. Don’t care if this is liked I always feel like a target on the road which is why I stay on trails as much as possible.
Not excusing what that guy did, but I see way too many bicyclist in the middle of the road where's there's a bike lane, or sidewalk/trail. Blowing through redlights like they don't care if someone hits them etc. Same goes with motorcyclists who disregard the rules of the road in the name of speeding and thrills.
Dealing with this in my local town has led me to have little empathy.
Dealing with this in my local town has led me to have little empathy.
I used to ride on rural roads. Way too many close calls and fools throwing the occasional object at me. And yes....I rode as far to the right as safely possible. Now you won't catch me riding at all on roads. No way. Fortunately in my situation I have many miles of paved bicycle/pedestrian paths to ride on.
Now if I could only rid them of the electric bike goofs.
Now if I could only rid them of the electric bike goofs.
I think that whether one decides to ride in a group or not is irrelevant. What matters is the behavior. For example, if you are riding in a paceline and hear a car coming up behind you (you don't wear earbuds in a paceline do you?), then don't switch off (and ride side by side) till the car has passed. The last guy can also signal the car to pass when safe. Generally if you are courteous, I find that stuff works.
I certainly do not condone that kind of behavior - it violates the social contract. And many times, a smile and a wave does wonders. However, in the case of the OP, there is no justifying that kind of behavior. Which is also why I now ride with a helmet mounted camera. It does wonders when motorists know that they are being recorded.
Many Humans are defective maybe the worst in the animal kingdom. Just miserable with their lives
Yes, they got caught behind me for about 30 seconds. Marked two lane road, no paved shoulders, still within city limits., with some oncoming traffic. When there's not a paved shoulder, I tend to ride within 2 feet of the white line (3 feet at the most).
I ride recreationally on a flat bar fitness bike so about 13-15mph. I ride locally in my neighborhood but my great joy is riding in NYC through Central Park, Times Square, bike lane to Battery Park, Brooklyn Bridge, wherever the desire takes me. I see many "serious" road bikers that seem to think that every road or bike lane was put in place just for them, pedestrians and other cyclists be ****ed. Reading the comment above, I have to ask...why 2 feet or 3 feet off the white line? Why not 1 foot? When you're 3 feet off the line, you have effectively taken the entire lane. Granted you may be going faster than most but 1 foot or less off the white line should be sufficient. When I'm in my car, I hate getting stuck behind cyclists that think they have the right to ride side by side so that they can have a chat at 15 mph while on a 25 mph or higher road is extremely frustrating. Ride single file and have your little chat when you reach your destination.
I ride recreationally on a flat bar fitness bike so about 13-15mph. I ride locally in my neighborhood but my great joy is riding in NYC through Central Park, Times Square, bike lane to Battery Park, Brooklyn Bridge, wherever the desire takes me. I see many "serious" road bikers that seem to think that every road or bike lane was put in place just for them, pedestrians and other cyclists be ****ed. Reading the comment above, I have to ask...why 2 feet or 3 feet off the white line? Why not 1 foot? When you're 3 feet off the line, you have effectively taken the entire lane. Granted you may be going faster than most but 1 foot or less off the white line should be sufficient. When I'm in my car, I hate getting stuck behind cyclists that think they have the right to ride side by side so that they can have a chat at 15 mph while on a 25 mph or higher road is extremely frustrating. Ride single file and have your little chat when you reach your destination.
As I said earlier: Walk a mile in the other person's shoes, if you are a driver or cyclist. One reason to take more of the lane is to enable safer passing. When I go downhill - sometimes hitting 45-50 mph, I'm taking the full lane. When taking 1 foot, I have found that some drivers pass unsafely since they think that they have the lane and land up nearly grazing me.
I do think that cyclists who ride side by side on busy roads need a talking to. They actually make the road unsafe for the rest of us.
I do think that cyclists who ride side by side on busy roads need a talking to. They actually make the road unsafe for the rest of us.
I commute close to 150 miles everyday, so I see allot on the road. The one thing that society seems to have an issue with (in many ways) is self accountability. Sorry, if someone beeps at me or utilizes any other roadway alerting methods, my first thought is "****, what am I doing that is unsafe"... My first thought is NOT to just throw a finger or be defensive. I guess I take that position in every aspect of life, if someone is pointing something out I immediately take a self inventory! If I cant rationalize myself as being in the wrong then I try to begin understanding the motive. We all pay taxes.... We all have our pound of flesh stollen from us from big brother, at some point we have to focus on what's better in the big picture ourselves, not just for me. "Macro not micro".
It would have been very simple and much more safe to just move over and allow the 2.5 ton mechanism have its space... A vehicle obviously has the ability to move much faster than a bicycle, and I would consider it rather arrogant to impose a slower speed upon them while they are trying to go about their day, just because someone wants to exercise or utilize their hobby. Sorry its that cut and dry for me... Maybe they were in the midst of an emergency. I would not be able to live with myself if I made and defended a cognitive choice to hold someone up that needed to get somewhere, my arrogance would quickly be forced from my mind and replaced with something that never leaves..
I think everyone should be safe on the road, and share the road, but I also believe its incredibly unsafe to let anything on the road way that cannot achieve and maintain an appropriate speed. It is simply unsafe in every way for everyone around it. I agree with another poster that mentions bicycles should not be allowed on a public roadway, he is absolutely correct! Its really the exact same theory as to why Amish buggies or hoarse drawn buggies are not allowed on highways, because it is UNSAFE FOR ALL INVOLVED.
It would have been very simple and much more safe to just move over and allow the 2.5 ton mechanism have its space... A vehicle obviously has the ability to move much faster than a bicycle, and I would consider it rather arrogant to impose a slower speed upon them while they are trying to go about their day, just because someone wants to exercise or utilize their hobby. Sorry its that cut and dry for me... Maybe they were in the midst of an emergency. I would not be able to live with myself if I made and defended a cognitive choice to hold someone up that needed to get somewhere, my arrogance would quickly be forced from my mind and replaced with something that never leaves..
I think everyone should be safe on the road, and share the road, but I also believe its incredibly unsafe to let anything on the road way that cannot achieve and maintain an appropriate speed. It is simply unsafe in every way for everyone around it. I agree with another poster that mentions bicycles should not be allowed on a public roadway, he is absolutely correct! Its really the exact same theory as to why Amish buggies or hoarse drawn buggies are not allowed on highways, because it is UNSAFE FOR ALL INVOLVED.
This is also part of what's wrong with our culture....
The fact that someone would even want to, let alone try to destroy someone's life (career or what have you) for something that happened in a period of time. That's a sickness yet diagnosed with a guaranteed future crisis in life... Then to brag about someone essentially committing extortion! Come on people, do we all just feel that horrible about ourselves and that miserable in life that we would relinquish in the suffering of another individual to satisfy our selves?
So many posts in this thread just outline the mindset that has shifted the culture in America to an entitlement mind set society. Its a scary portrait of erasing the values and morals America once proudly displayed.
Man on moon---------------> Man in women's restroom.
All you have to do is read the reports of NHL player Johnny Gaudreau and his brother being killed while cycling on a rural NJ road. There are more bad drivers on the road than ever.
They go a place that is appropriate to ride safely... Or they acquire the proper equipment to be safe, like a mountain bike that can tackle various terrain.
So if I am a rural cyclist, I can only ride mountain bikes? Frankly, if you commute 150 miles a day, and you can maintain 25 mph (not trivial at all on a commute bike), you are riding 6 hours a day with zero stops. So, do you have your own road with no cars on them to commute on?
Color me skeptical.
Sounds like a fairy tale scenario. Color me skeptical. The percentage (and raw number) of cyclists who do this is infinitesimally small. The vast, vast majority are going < 18 mph and riding for pleasure.
Riding a bicycle at half or less of the speed of the flow of traffic and refusing to ride on the shoulder is functionally equivalent to walking down the road in the lane and making cars go around. It's not just excessively unsafe, it's discourteous and rude. That's not to say that automobile drivers should endanger pedestrians (on foot or on bicycle).
I agree with @ripcord : My usual commute is 36 miles round trip. It is a pleasant commute, mostly on bike trails, and surface streets near the city center. I am a pretty strong rider, and this is about as far as I want to commute daily, especially in dark and wet weather.
I agree that deliberately obstructing traffic is suicidal. We have plenty of loons in our society. Why give them an excuse? And I go out of my way to avoid left turns which might force me into the flow of traffic - especially on lightly traveled roads with very fast traffic.
I agree that deliberately obstructing traffic is suicidal. We have plenty of loons in our society. Why give them an excuse? And I go out of my way to avoid left turns which might force me into the flow of traffic - especially on lightly traveled roads with very fast traffic.
Hmm... these smart trainers have gotten really good.
