do they still make GTX Startup oil ?
is it any good?
is it any good?
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figures, missed another good product.
Got to ask....what is start up oil?
It was marketed as "Protection from the moment you turn the key". I bought some on clearance a while ago. I got a 5w30 with an SL classification. Not sure what's in it, but the back talks about "Contains polarized molecules that are attracted like a magnet to the engine's metal surfaces providing quick and lasting protection"
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The problem with that oil wasn't it's quality but simply where is it supposed to be used? New cars? Older cars? High performance cars?
With Castrol already having a lineup containing GTX, GTX High Mileage, Syntec and Syntec Blend, it didn't really leave any spots left for GTX Start Up.
With Castrol already having a lineup containing GTX, GTX High Mileage, Syntec and Syntec Blend, it didn't really leave any spots left for GTX Start Up.
I really liked that GTX Startup and would have continued to buy iy, my stores of it ran out. It was the best oil I ever used. It would leave a slippery film behind even on your hands. I wish they still did sell it. I used it in my new truck and had no problems with it. I prefer it over their Castrol Syntec. Which I used once and was not impressed.
Was this stuff group 3 with some esters thrown in for good measure???
I dug up the scoop on it. It says esters were used. Cool. Esters vary hugely in chemical structure and their properties so don't get any ideas of all esters being suited for this purpose.
"Castrol GTX Start Up.
Protection from the moment you turn the key!
The problem:
• The rate of engine wear is higher during the first 10 minutes of each trip
• Many traditional anti-wear additives contained in conventional motor oils can take up to 10 minutes to work effectively.
• Superior protection during the first crucial minutes after start-up helps prevent engine wear, and potentially provides longer engine life.
GTX Start Up is specially formulated to provide superior wear protection during the critical start up period.
How it works!
• Unique formulation with advanced anti-wear technology
• Contains polarized ester molecules that are attracted like a magnet to the engine's metal surfaces, providing quick and lasting protection
• Premium synthetic boosters to help prevent engine wear.
Part numbers
CAS 06222
CAS 06224
CAS 06226"
"Castrol GTX Start Up.
Protection from the moment you turn the key!
The problem:
• The rate of engine wear is higher during the first 10 minutes of each trip
• Many traditional anti-wear additives contained in conventional motor oils can take up to 10 minutes to work effectively.
• Superior protection during the first crucial minutes after start-up helps prevent engine wear, and potentially provides longer engine life.
GTX Start Up is specially formulated to provide superior wear protection during the critical start up period.
How it works!
• Unique formulation with advanced anti-wear technology
• Contains polarized ester molecules that are attracted like a magnet to the engine's metal surfaces, providing quick and lasting protection
• Premium synthetic boosters to help prevent engine wear.
Part numbers
CAS 06222
CAS 06224
CAS 06226"
Patman
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So why don't they just incorporate this formula into their regular GTX then? Get an edge up on their competition!
Originally Posted By: Patman
So why don't they just incorporate this formula into their regular GTX then? Get an edge up on their competition!
Funny you mention that Patman, as I have often wondered why oil companies don't simply incorporate seal conditioners within their conventional oils. The simple answe is marketing, but I agree, you would think the first oil company to do that, would blow the competition away. No longer will you have to purchase a thick HM oil for your perfectly tuned engine designed to run on thinner weights, you can get seal protection within the conventional brand.
So why don't they just incorporate this formula into their regular GTX then? Get an edge up on their competition!
Funny you mention that Patman, as I have often wondered why oil companies don't simply incorporate seal conditioners within their conventional oils. The simple answe is marketing, but I agree, you would think the first oil company to do that, would blow the competition away. No longer will you have to purchase a thick HM oil for your perfectly tuned engine designed to run on thinner weights, you can get seal protection within the conventional brand.
Originally Posted By: strombony
No longer will you have to purchase a thick HM oil for your perfectly tuned engine designed to run on thinner weights, you can get seal protection within the conventional brand.
This "thick" high mileage oil talk has got to stop. People make it sound like you're pouring 20w50 out of the bottle or something.
No longer will you have to purchase a thick HM oil for your perfectly tuned engine designed to run on thinner weights, you can get seal protection within the conventional brand.
This "thick" high mileage oil talk has got to stop. People make it sound like you're pouring 20w50 out of the bottle or something.
Thick, as in thicker WITHIN the same viscosity. Like a thick 30 weight, almost a 40, etc. Sort of what a HM engine needs to combat some of the looser tolerances, maybe?
Originally Posted By: bmwtechguy
Thick, as in thicker WITHIN the same viscosity. Like a thick 30 weight, almost a 40, etc. Sort of what a HM engine needs to combat some of the looser tolerances, maybe?
But, just because an engine is high in mileage, does not mean that it's specs have deminished to the point it needs a thicker oil. But I do think that all engines with high miles could use a seal conditioner...NOT a thicker oil
Thick, as in thicker WITHIN the same viscosity. Like a thick 30 weight, almost a 40, etc. Sort of what a HM engine needs to combat some of the looser tolerances, maybe?
But, just because an engine is high in mileage, does not mean that it's specs have deminished to the point it needs a thicker oil. But I do think that all engines with high miles could use a seal conditioner...NOT a thicker oil
Originally Posted By: Dyoel182
Exactly right. People should try a high mileage oil in the same grade before trying to patch the problem with a thicker oil.
More so, these oil companies should stop taking advantage of the consumer give everyone 2 options... Use full syn w/seal conditioners already added)... Or use conventional w/seal conditioners already added.
Exactly right. People should try a high mileage oil in the same grade before trying to patch the problem with a thicker oil.
More so, these oil companies should stop taking advantage of the consumer give everyone 2 options... Use full syn w/seal conditioners already added)... Or use conventional w/seal conditioners already added.
Who says they are taking advantage? Some engines never seem to need seal conditioner or a high mileage additive package so they're just fine with standard blends. If you need the high mileage stuff its nice to have that option to buy it rather than blending in your own bottle of smoke be gone or leak be gone.
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