Graphene coating

[Donald]

Looking on Amazon I see Graphene coating being advertised as a 10 year coating. Is it a type of ceramic coating? Or its own type of coating? And particular brands works best? Any downside? I am interested in best protection for the paint and less about a showroom shine.

 

[rijndael]

I've only tried Adams Graphene glass coating, it didn't last a month.

Paint wise, I've not seen anything that suggests it's more than a marketing gimmick. I use CarPro CQuartz UK 3.0 with a top off of Reload every 6 months or so. I'm on year 2 and it looks still amazing. Great beading, sheds dirt, etc.

 

[97prizm]

Looking on Amazon I see Graphene coating being advertised as a 10 year coating. Is it a type of ceramic coating? Or its own type of coating? And particular brands works best? Any downside? I am interested in best protection for the paint and less about a showroom shine.

I think it depends on how it's prepped and applied. Ed Bolian used a ceramic coating on his black Porsche and he said the dirt wouldn't stick. Graphene is different than ceramic coatings from what I've seen.

 

[rijndael]

Ceramic coatings definitely help keep your car cleaner. If you do the wheels, they will rinse clean of brake dust with just a hose.

 

[MrHorspwer]

My favorite graphene story: The gentleman that owns a local detailing store is a really nice guy. Willing to listen and troubleshoot, keeps a lot of products in stock, always helpful, and doesn't immediately go to "buying this product will solve your problem!"

Chatting him up and I mentioned that I was using a graphene coating (Adam's, if it matters). He drops in that graphene is mostly a marketing push, it doesn't do anything more than other products also do, and there are many more considerations in choosing a product other than "it has graphene". A pretty measure response and probably 100% true but the product line he stocked didn't have any products with graphene either.

8 months later, he switched vendors to a supplier whose coatings do contain graphene. Chatting him up again, now graphene is the business. Other products are good, the stuff he used to sell, but what he's got now is the top of the market.

Personally, I think it's being thrown around too much. Graphene tire dressing, graphene glass coating, graphene plastic trim coating, graphene clear plastic coating. I've used tire product with graphene; It doesn't hold up any better than any other tire shine. I've used graphene glass coating; I went back to Rainx on the cars and now use graphene to coat the shower door in my bathroom, mostly because I wanted to use it for something.

I've been happy with the regular Adam's graphene coating. It's not magic; No coating is. Having graphene in the product name doesn't make it a 10-year coating (there's no such thing).

Here's the thing: Everybody wants to be right, that what they chose is the right choice. If they spent $2,500 for a "lifetime" coating from a detailer, they will defend that it's an elixir made from unicorn tears that only professional detailers who know the secret handshake can obtain and it's well worth what they spent. If they think regular old carnauba wax is the best, they'll tell you that coatings are overpriced and overrated. If they use a product with graphene, it's superior to a product without graphene. Take it all in stride.

 

[buster]

Looking on Amazon I see Graphene coating being advertised as a 10 year coating. Is it a type of ceramic coating? Or its own type of coating? And particular brands works best? Any downside? I am interested in best protection for the paint and less about a showroom shine.

Graphene is more of a gimmick. Think of it as Sio2 +. Will never in a million years last 10 years in the real world unless the car sits in a garage or lives in Southern California. "Useful" life of a coating is generally 1 to 3 years max. Stick with major brand however some of the cheaper Chinese coatings can be decent if you find the right one.

 

[Donald]

I was thinking of buying some and having the mobile detailer apply it. Previously I had him use PowerLock Ultra. Is it a lot more effort to apply than PowerLock Ultra? It will be done in my drive and no garage. Garage renamed tool storage room

 

[buster]

I was thinking of buying some and having the mobile detailer apply it. Previously I had him use PowerLock Ultra. Is it a lot more effort to apply than PowerLock Ultra? It will be done in my drive and no garage. Garage renamed tool storage room

I wouldn't do it in driveway. Also if the paint isn't properly prepped (light polish) the coating is a waste. Don't bother.

 

[shortyb]

I was thinking of buying some and having the mobile detailer apply it. Previously I had him use PowerLock Ultra. Is it a lot more effort to apply than PowerLock Ultra? It will be done in my drive and no garage. Garage renamed tool storage room

10 year coating? Hardly. You will get much the same, probably less, with a Graphene product than the Jescar. I'd personally stick with that and switch to Ultra Lok+ if you like their products.

 

[Donald]

I wouldn't do it in driveway. Also if the paint isn't properly prepped (light polish) the coating is a waste. Don't bother.

PowerLock Ultra it is then.

 

[jcy]

Also if the paint isn't properly prepped (light polish) the coating is a waste.

is this also true for ceramic coatings?

 

[buster]

is this also true for ceramic coatings?

It's really applicable to all LSPs. The better the surface is prepped, the better it can bond. You can cut corners though and do a full decontamination minus polish and still get decent results though.

 

[BHopkins]

A couple years ago, all the leading detailers where pushing graphene products, as being the latest great advancement past ceramic. Now, I've noticed that most of those same detailers are back to recommending and using ceramic coatings.

From what I have seen, most have learned that graphene coatings do not give any better protection or longevity than ceramic coatings.

I tried Adams Graphene Liquid Wax, and was totally unimpressed. I've had better performance out Turtle Wax hybrid ceramic coating, which is what I consider to be just a good entry level ceramic product.

 

[Tempest1]

I've put Mckees 37 pro graphene on 2 cars and it is super simple to apply. Easier than most sealants. The difficult part is the prep. Paint needs to be clean and contaminate free. Takes time and elbow grease. Well worth it if you intend to keep the car a long time. True coatings make cars easier to clean and usually have UV protection.

Graphene oxide is added to ceramic products primarily for improved water spot resistance and better slickness.

 

[Indyxc]

I tried the majoirty of the newer ceramic coatings (including Adams Graphene spray, and Advanced Ceramic Coating).

Their graphene coatings are fine. They are suppose to help with water spotting. My current favorite coating is Armor Detail Supply. Easy to use, and works great.

 

[buster]

I tried the majoirty of the newer ceramic coatings (including Adams Graphene spray, and Advanced Ceramic Coating).

Their graphene coatings are fine. They are suppose to help with water spotting. My current favorite coating is Armor Detail Supply. Easy to use, and works great.

ADS is one of the better new brands.

 

[kschachn]

Graphene has been the solution in search of a problem for quite a while now. Not just here.

 

[buster]

The major companies were slow to adopt graphene, but some have (IGL) is one. Carpro, Gyeon, Opti-Coat etc. are not using it. It has some small benefit that some manufacturers are using in small doses but overall, it's a gimmick and you'll find it in numerous detailing products now. Mostly marketing will little to no perceivable benefit.

 

[Indyxc]

ADS is one of the better new brands.

Their wheel coats and new ceramic coatings are top notch.