GR Corolla catches fire; Toyota denies warranty claim

I'd love to read that Cause and Origin report.

Serious disconnect between Sales / Marketing and Warranty at Toyota.

Sales - Race Car Drive Every Day

Warranty - Can't drive (over) 55.

Shakes head.
 
WAIT. The guy was driving with a known hole in the block?

What a mess. Weird!
I had to read that like 10 times. Its the most poorly written piece I have seen in a while. Its written out of order.

THere was a fender bender 4 months earlier - per carfax

The dealer had the car and fixed some things one month prior. No hole noted.

The inspection took place after the fire (with discovery of the hole by a Fire Inspector).

There trying to blame a fender bender 4 months earlier, and driving 85mph. What a farce. Total garbage.

Applicable parts:

You stated that approximately 30 days prior to the incident, you had taken the vehicle to a Toyota dealer for an oil change and a fuel issue that was repaired.

In response to your concerns, a vehicle inspection was conducted on June 24, 2024 at Copart by an EAA (Engineering Analysis Associates) fire inspector. The last reported odometer reading of the vehicle was 23,413 miles. Per the CARFAX report, on February 12, 2024, accident damage was reported to the front, the left front, the right front and the right rear.
 
Do you guys think Toyota would honor the warranty if this person hired a lawyer, and had the lawyer send Toyota a letter?
Maybe. With these kind of stories I assume there's more to it than what we've been told. If I were the owner I would at least talk to an attorney and see what my option are. Ideally I'd want Toyota to buy the car back and never do business with them again.
 
Interested to hear more about this "... fuel issue that was repaired".

FUEL ISSUE?!
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Oh, What a Feeling !

toyota jan.webp
 
Toyota: sells car marketed as track-ready including tires, literally an off-the-lot car for track days
Also Toyota: 85mph is too fast, watch those tires, warranty claim for blown engine denied!

This is similar in some ways to the GR86s that had issues on-track that Toyota declined warranty coverage for only to back-pedal after the internet lost their minds about it.

And folks here think using whatever oil they want won't impact a warranty claim like this? HAHAHAHAHA
 
Everything else not with standing - he should just let the insurance company subrogate them. Assuming it is a good sized insurance company he can just pay his deductible, go get him a new Golf R and let the corporate law dogs sort it out.

If the insurance ever collects from "Oh What a Feeling" he will get his deductible back.
 
Assuming the complete truth is as presented, and it is on YouTube so we can assume it is :D , I read this as the warranty is denied due to the prior accident damage (which sound rather severe) and not the speed. No where does Toyota state that the denial is due to the speed, it appears to be noted as a corporate CYA. That said, the Toyota letter is somewhat clumsily worded. Curious as to the complete story.....
 
Remember, this is the same Toyota that is in the middle of replacing 102,000 engines in Tundras and Lexus that had machining errors. A good friend who is Toyota employee, when I asked about a Corrola told me to stick with Hondas. I've driven Hondas for near 40 years Including 5 1.5t powered vehicles, never a had an engine failure. Of course I virtually never exceed 5k OCI's and recently switched from 0w20 to 5W-30. It would cost Toyota virtually nothing to make things right for this customer, now they'll loose a customer and get a lot of bad publicity.
 
Assuming the complete truth is as presented, and it is on YouTube so we can assume it is :D , I read this as the warranty is denied due to the prior accident damage (which sound rather severe) and not the speed. No where does Toyota state that the denial is due to the speed, it appears to be noted as a corporate CYA. That said, the Toyota letter is somewhat clumsily worded. Curious as to the complete story.....
Steve Lehto in the video above says they don't say that in their letter, and all that other stuff seems irrelevant. Mr. Lehto is a lawyer in Michigan with quite a following.

My guess is they handed this to some Junior attorney and told them they to make this go away. They tried to be heavy handed. If Steve Lehto has a piece out the entire automotive world will know shortly.

I am sure the Toyota Marketing people are currently fit to be tied also.
 
Assuming the complete truth is as presented, and it is on YouTube so we can assume it is :D , I read this as the warranty is denied due to the prior accident damage (which sound rather severe) and not the speed. No where does Toyota state that the denial is due to the speed, it appears to be noted as a corporate CYA. That said, the Toyota letter is somewhat clumsily worded. Curious as to the complete story.....
Yes, joking aside, they are denying b/c of the accident but their response was strange as the lawyer noted in the video. Not sure how a minor/repairable accident caused a thrown rod/hole in the block (assuming that is what happened) but I'd just let my insurance company deal with it.
 
Steve Lehto in the video above says they don't say that in their letter, and all that other stuff seems irrelevant. Mr. Lehto is a lawyer in Michigan with quite a following.

My guess is they handed this to some Junior attorney and told them they to make this go away. They tried to be heavy handed. If Steve Lehto has a piece out the entire automotive world will know shortly.

I am sure the Toyota Marketing people are currently fit to be tied also.
100%, he's the lemon law/warranty guy. Like the GR86s that got social-media attention to force Toyota's hand, so will this.
 
The age of Toyota reliability has ended long ago with these smaller shorter turbo charged displacement engines, 0-20w to match with a sports car is one clown combo to advertise as track ready vehicle. I remember reading technical engine reviews that recommended to stay clear after a few generations. Some outstanding Technical Service Bulletins are starting to pop up as time goes related to these engines.

I like how calm the driver was during the whole ordeal, that dash cam is probably getting more attention for whoever makes them haha.
Toyota 0w-20.mp4 moment.

There was a GR Yaris that exploded on the track somewhere in Europe I believe the driver was running OEM 0w-20 oil that was posted on YT long ago that was also denied warranty. This really falls under the subject of lemon laws if a car can't handle what its made to do out of the factory.

I wouldn't touch a new Toyota these days but the older models with re-known engines are worth a gander if taken well care of by previous owners.
 
The age of Toyota reliability has ended long ago with these smaller shorter turbo charged displacement engines, 0-20w to match with a sports car is one clown combo to advertise as track ready vehicle. I remember reading technical engine reviews that recommended to stay clear after a few generations. Some outstanding Technical Service Bulletins are starting to pop up as time goes related to these engines.

I like how calm the driver was during the whole ordeal, that dash cam is probably getting more attention for whoever makes them haha.
Toyota 0w-20.mp4 moment.

There was a GR Yaris that exploded on the track somewhere in Europe I believe the driver was running OEM 0w-20 oil that was posted on YT long ago that was also denied warranty. This really falls under the subject of lemon laws if a car can't handle what its made to do out of the factory.

I wouldn't touch a new Toyota these days but the older models with re-known engines are worth a gander if taken well care of by previous owners.
Your extrapolation skills are fined tuned. ;)
 
Regardless of the origin of the engine hole and fire, what the heck does the tire speed rating have to do with their lame denial???

It's hard to tell what they are actually basing their denial upon ... speed? tires? previous accident repair work?

That's a hack denial big time; a garbage response from Toyota.
 
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