Glad I didn't buy the diesel VW.

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Originally posted by michaelc80:
Around central Iowa-gas is $2.19-$2.29. Diesel is $3.20-$3.60. Don't know how long it will last-especially with hurricane Wilma.

WHAT?!? Do my eyes decieve me? You mean $3.19-$3.29 for gas, right???

The diesel might get significantly better MPG, makeing some of the cost difference a moot point.

JMH
 
Yeah, that's some inexpensive gas. I'm jealous. It's about $2.80 around here, but other parts of the country got it even higher.

Does the state of Iowa subsidize gas to give people some incentive just to live there? J/K
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Yes, there is a huge refinery shortage for diesel fuel more than anything. As more diesels make their way into cars, things will just get worse.

The situation with diesel fuel, IMHO, is far more serious for the economy than any alleged shortages of regular 87-octane unleaded petrol. Moving to diesel-powered cars is one of the few ways North Americans can actually conserve energy in a meaningful way without reducing the number of miles cars are operated for.
 
Diesel= de-sulphured #2 fuel oil. The refineries are skipping the de-sulphurization process and shipping it to the NE to gouge us. Happens every yr about this time. I'm going back to heating with wood.
 
Last Saturday gas was $2.79/gal for 87 at Arco. Haven't left an area within two blocks of my house since last Saturday.
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"Moving to diesel-powered cars is one of the few ways North Americans can actually conserve energy in a meaningful way without reducing the number of miles cars are operated for. "

as long as none of us have to breathe.....

However, I will assume you refer to the mostly-not-available-in-NA style of clean diesels. sitting in traffic next to a diesel bubbabuggie will not only gag you but also make you deaf. No wonder car makers think diesels are a tough sell in NA, based on what we have now I can't blame people for hating them.
 
$2.49 for 87 ..a dime upgrade for each upgrade

I just paid $2.32 for heating oil. It should only have $0.40 tacked on for road taxes. It shouldn't be any more than about $2.80 ..or so I'd reason.
 
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Originally posted by michaelc80:
Around central Iowa-gas is $2.19-$2.29. Diesel is $3.20-$3.60. Don't know how long it will last-especially with hurricane Wilma.

WHAT?!? Do my eyes decieve me? You mean $3.19-$3.29 for gas, right???

The diesel might get significantly better MPG, makeing some of the cost difference a moot point.

JMH


I filled up in Ames, IA at $2.19 last Friday. Yes, $2.19. Diesel in Chariton Ia yesterday was $3.60.

I get 32MPG with my Subaru Outback Sport (60MPH on the highway with the cruise set). Given the price difference, the mileage on a diesel would have to be a lot higher than it is to make up for the cost, especially considering the higher up-front cost.
 
$2.3X for 87 AKI for the last several weeks around here. Diesel is consistently $1.00 or more on top of that.
 
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Originally posted by michaelc80:

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Originally posted by JHZR2:

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Originally posted by michaelc80:
Around central Iowa-gas is $2.19-$2.29. Diesel is $3.20-$3.60. Don't know how long it will last-especially with hurricane Wilma.

WHAT?!? Do my eyes decieve me? You mean $3.19-$3.29 for gas, right???

The diesel might get significantly better MPG, makeing some of the cost difference a moot point.

JMH


I filled up in Ames, IA at $2.19 last Friday. Yes, $2.19. Diesel in Chariton Ia yesterday was $3.60.

I get 32MPG with my Subaru Outback Sport (60MPH on the highway with the cruise set). Given the price difference, the mileage on a diesel would have to be a lot higher than it is to make up for the cost, especially considering the higher up-front cost.


Agreed. I really, REALLY had my heart set on getting a VW diesel, until I took road trip to Minnesota with my V-6 Malibu and consistently managed to get over 30mpg while doing a minimum of 65mph AND driving with the "check engine" light on. Sure, a diesel could have gotten me at least 10 mpg more, but I take those kinds of road trips once every 5 years or so, and the increased cost of car and fuel just won't be made up with my driving to the train and back -- not to mention that my daily commute is terrible for a diesel as the engine would probably never warm up completely in the 6 mile trip to the train station in the winter.
 
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