Free Energy

[427Z06]

For the Physicists among us.

A look at some theoretical physics explanations that might support the recent revolutionary announcement of a free energy device by the Irish company Steorn, who claim to have an all-magnet motor.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Site:L...f_an_Overunity_Asymmetric_System_to_be_Tested

http://www.cheniere.org

 

[Shannow]

I'm almost tempted to build a Joe Cell one of these days for my lawnmower.

 

[Gary Allan]

“... In 1999, the Earth's first strategic sub-space war was silently fought and won...”

Were "we" the victors

Why no film at 11

 

[JavaMan]

If all this is fact, then petroleum will be a thing of the past. But, something seems too good to be true. Why isn't anyone producing these engines/devices that utilize this energy? I don't think it a conspiracy. The amounts of money involved would surely inspire some countries/corporations to mass produce these regardless of what the oil companies or whomever might think.

 

[Gary Allan]

Hey, man ..bring it on. I'll take my Mr. Fusion with the two tap option. One hot ..the other cold.

So, now we can rob our power from sub-space? What happens if it objects??

 

[Al]

We have been working on release of controlled energy fusion for decades it will take decades more. I'm sure the above is no closer. Funny we could solve the problem by conservation but noone seems to think that method works.

 

[Gary Allan]

That's no fun, Al. How are we gonna have fun with conservation?

OTOH, forced conservation due to depleting resources may allow research to find the magic black box that we desire.

So folks ..mash your pedal! It's for the best.

 

[Oldmoparguy1]

Conservation is the practice of not having fun...

 

[BrianWC]

quote:

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Originally posted by Gary Allan:
Hey, man ..bring it on. I'll take my Mr. Fusion with the two tap option. One hot ..the other cold.

So, now we can rob our power from sub-space? What happens if it objects??

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What would Tom Cruise say???

I heard this guy on Neil Cavuto this afternoon. Going on national TV and stating you don't know why your product works is, um, just weird.

 

[JavaMan]

"Hey, man ..bring it on."

If it will work, I'm right behind you.

 

[Pablo]

Sounds like backward pablum or I must have been in the school hot tub the day this was covered.

Not convinced. First he says the forward and backward (poles) are equal - then he goes into his left over energy strangeness. Lost me.

Explain it to me and I'll send you a free rock, FOB.

 

[labman]

I am not shorting Exxon.

 

[K-Man]

Don Lancaster has put the whole concept best:

"Finding a source of 'unlimited free energy' would be the most unimaginably heinous crime possible against humanity. For it would inevitably turn the planet into a cinder. Hastening an isoentropic heat death. If you find a new energy source, you [mild expletive deleted] well better find a new free energy sink as well. Even then, the relative flux rates will still nail you."

From Blatant Opportunist 49, "How to bash pseudoscience".

And while we're on such topics:

"[Nikola] Tesla was certainly one of the finest engineers of all time. Who developed both the induction motor and polyphase AC transmission. But he also was one of the greatest con artists this side of P. T. Barnum. And clearly was a few chips shy of a full board. There's a latter day cult built up around Tesla's 'free energy' schemes.
"Which flat out ain't gonna happen."

From Blatant Opportunist 32, "Engineering ratholes".

 

[427Z06]

A couple comments.

There's a difference between "free" and "free to me". In other words, you can get energy for "free" and still have conservation of energy in the universe. The Casimir effect is an example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

Using water flowing down hill to drive a turbine is another. The sun is creating the kinetic energy we use in hydroelectric plants, but we get the energy for "free".

The big stickler is always the cost of the device to "capture" and convert the energy for our use. Just as in the Casimir effect, the device needed to capture the amount of energy we use may be prohibitively expensive to build on an industrial scale.

As always, I remain skeptical but open minded.

 

[427Z06]

quote:

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Originally posted by Gary Allan:
“... In 1999, the Earth's first strategic sub-space war was silently fought and won...”

Were "we" the victors

Why no film at 11

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You needed "Cosmic Top Secret - Eyes Only", type clearance to have been notified of the occurrence.

 

[427Z06]

quote:

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Originally posted by ekrampitzjr:
Don Lancaster has put the whole concept best:

"Finding a source of 'unlimited free energy' would be the most unimaginably heinous crime possible against humanity. For it would inevitably turn the planet into a cinder.

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The Ultra Rich who currently control the means of energy production probably fall asleep everynight telling themselves this. Do you believe an Exxon CEO is 100 times smarter than everyone else?

 

[Gary Allan]

quote:

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Originally posted by 427Z06:
Do you believe an Exxon CEO is 100 times smarter than everyone else?

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No. But he's probably 10,000 times better connected than everyone else. (recalling a very long list of where many of XOM's board of directors also serve on boards of other companies).

 

[oilyriser]

Magnets do contain stored energy, and if you can figure out a way to drain them you could build a motor that would run for a while. But why ruin all those nice magnets?

 

[moribundman]

quote:

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The amounts of money involved would surely inspire some countries/corporations to mass produce these regardless of what the oil companies or whomever might think.

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Or as Spock might say, "The energy needs of the many outweigh the monetary needs of the few or the one."

 

[Schmoe]

Interesting. Wonder if Einsteins equation plays any part in this....energy is neither created nor destroyed. I had always thought that if someone could develope a way to collect the energy off magnetic fields, it could solve energy problems.