Fram Xtended Guard vs. PureOne

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Originally Posted By: sangyup81
whichever one is cheaper


WE HAVE A WINNER!

Why? Because both of the filters you mention will protect the engine well more than good enough for the 10k mile OCI. Consider a few things:
1) the modular motor is a good design, and can easily go 250k miles or more with just "routine" PM maintenance; many can go farther, but I consider this a minimum in today's vehicles
2) most people don't own a vehicle that long; wrecks, boredome, etc remove the vehicle from your hands in probably 95% of the "typical" situations
3) both filters can easily go 10k miles and not be saturated to a point of blinding off, so both will "protect" adequately


So if performance is not a deciding factor, then cost becomes the main criteria.
 
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Well if you also look at it this way, take GM OLM cars for example that can hit 10-12k with a ecore acdelco with a nitrile ADBV. Any filter will get you to 10k, any of them.
 
You can't go wrong with either going 10,ooo miles. However, I am wondering how much of a difference the Frams double capacity is for an extended drain. I'm assuming if your engine is clean you're fine. However, if it is dirty (e.g. if you just bought a used car and aren't aware of the previous drivers maintenance habits), then I am assuming the Fram is the way to go. What I am doing is starting out with the Fram and going 10,000 miles and then I will switch to Pureone because it is cheaper and because if my engine has extra junk, the Fram should remove most if not all of it with the double capacity.
 
Originally Posted By: Jakegday
the fram extended guard can hold 26 grams while the pureone can hold 13. however the pure one has a 99.9% efficiency while the fram extended guard only has 97%.... according to the boxes.
if i had to pick, i'd choose the pureone for the 10k run


Since the regulars have pointed it out yet, the PureOne is 99.9% efficient at 40 microns.

I like them both, but if I had the dough I think I would use the XG. The can is heavier duty I think, which is good if the filter is located where road debris can hit it. And it's not poopy yellow.
 
Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
Originally Posted By: Jakegday
the fram extended guard can hold 26 grams while the pureone can hold 13. however the pure one has a 99.9% efficiency while the fram extended guard only has 97%.... according to the boxes.
if i had to pick, i'd choose the pureone for the 10k run


Since the regulars have pointed it out yet, the PureOne is 99.9% efficient at 40 microns.

sorry man, you're wrong. the box states at 20 microns. so does the extended guards. ill try to get a pic up here in a little bit....
 
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Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Originally Posted By: sangyup81
whichever one is cheaper


WE HAVE A WINNER!

Why? Because both of the filters you mention will protect the engine well more than good enough for the 10k mile OCI. Consider a few things:
1) the modular motor is a good design, and can easily go 250k miles or more with just "routine" PM maintenance; many can go farther, but I consider this a minimum in today's vehicles
2) most people don't own a vehicle that long; wrecks, boredome, etc remove the vehicle from your hands in probably 95% of the "typical" situations
3) both filters can easily go 10k miles and not be saturated to a point of blinding off, so both will "protect" adequately


So if performance is not a deciding factor, then cost becomes the main criteria.
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sorry man, you're wrong. the box states at 20 microns. so does the extended guards. ill try to get a pic up here in a little bit....


I very well could be wrong since I'm only going by the info that people said and all my filters are back home so I can't check. I hope you're right though, because I have one on my car.
 
I'll just say that I have been very impressed with Fram's build quality. I have never purchased a Fram product that had questionable build quality.

On the other hand, I cannot say the same about Purolator or Wix products. Purolator products feel awfully cheap to me, right down to the label-- the Pureones I recently ordered use stick-on labels! The Wix products I've used have had poor quality media-- the air filter had "hairy" strands all over the box.

So for the money, I'll take a Fram product over a Purolator or Wix product any day.
 
I have run the XG on my civic for 6,000 miles and cut it open. I have no problem going longer like 10K OCI. Right now, there's a Pure One on the Civic. I would say which ever is cheaper would be my pick.
 
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Since the regulars have pointed it out yet, the PureOne is 99.9% efficient at 40 microns.
The majority of the P1's are at 20um as Busa and river_rat have stated in previous threads. There are several apps like the PL 14610 that are at 40um.

However, as noted by river_rat, all the Fram ratings are based on ">20um" . That could be at any size/point greater 20um, who knows what it is.
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All that aside, both tout 10k OCI, is the XG worth $2-3 more?
 
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Originally Posted By: HyperJinx
P-U-R-O-L-A-T-O-R


+1 PUROLATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+2PUROLATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i hate fram
 
Originally Posted By: sayjac
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Since the regulars have pointed it out yet, the PureOne is 99.9% efficient at 40 microns.
The majority of the P1's are at 20um as Busa and river_rat have stated in previous threads. There are several apps like the PL 14610 that are at 40um.

However, as noted by river_rat, all the Fram ratings are based on ">20um" . That could be at any size/point greater 20um, who knows what it is.
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All that aside, both tout 10k OCI, is the XG worth $2-3 more?


True that sayjac. As you and others well know, there are only 4 PureONE spin-on filters that are rated at 40 microns, while all the other spin-ons are rated at 20 microns. I researched this and somewhere on this board posted the 4 models that have the "99.9% @ 40 microns" rating.

The Purolator filters that are rated at 40 microns instead of 20 microns are the smallest 4 spin-ons they make. Their size has a bearing on their efficiency rating.
 
Originally Posted By: Capa
You can't go wrong with either going 10,ooo miles. However, I am wondering how much of a difference the Frams double capacity is for an extended drain. I'm assuming if your engine is clean you're fine. However, if it is dirty (e.g. if you just bought a used car and aren't aware of the previous drivers maintenance habits), then I am assuming the Fram is the way to go. What I am doing is starting out with the Fram and going 10,000 miles and then I will switch to Pureone because it is cheaper and because if my engine has extra junk, the Fram should remove most if not all of it with the double capacity.


Solid plan IMO.
 
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The Purolator filters that are rated at 40 microns instead of 20 microns are the smallest 4 spin-ons they make. Their size has a bearing on their efficiency rating


One of the other ones wouldn't happen to be the 14459 would it? What are they anyways?
 
Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac

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The Purolator filters that are rated at 40 microns instead of 20 microns are the smallest 4 spin-ons they make. Their size has a bearing on their efficiency rating


One of the other ones wouldn't happen to be the 14459 would it? What are they anyways?


I'd have to do some digging to list all 4 again ... it might be in this thread somewhere. If I run across it, I'll repost. The search function is weak on this board.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1716217/

I know for a fact that the 14610 is one of them because I use that filter on my Altima V6. If you look on the box and it says "99.9% @ 40 microns" then that is the rating.
 
I too, am currently running the PL14610 with Quaker State Horsepower Ultimate Durability in a 3.0L Accord till 5-10% OLM, though more likely the 1 year Honda OCI max.
 
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