I'm thinking of running one these two filters on our 2016 Ford Fusion 2.0 ecoboost, filter would be 3614 unless I "upsized" which I haven't done on this car. I was planning on running the filter for two oil changes, roughly 10,000 to 12,000 miles. I'm leaning towards the Ultra for $9 vs. the Endurance $13. Is the extra $4 worth the wire backing? Any input is appreciated.
Fram Ultra or Fram Endurance?
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BrendanC
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in my opinion based on the photos we’ve seen with all the wavy pleats coming out of the new ultras, i’d say the extra $4 is justified.
I’m not a fan of the new ultras but I’m sure it wouldn’t matter which one you use for 10k miles.
That's what I was thinking too. I like the Ultra price point for it's efficiency, too bad they changed it.
Endurance
Are you saying OCI 10-12k x2 to make it 20-24k FCI? The Endurance should be able to handle that with no problem.
Are you saying OCI 10-12k x2 to make it 20-24k FCI? The Endurance should be able to handle that with no problem.
Two OCIs then Endurance for sure that justifies the price. The Ultra has turned into a glorified ToughGuard and is not worth the extra over the TG.
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Try out the donaldson p551132 if you want a fram 3614 filter comparable to an ultra/endurance that cost less and is better built. I cut one open new sample a few days ago here.
Just run the Tough Gard that is rated for 15k and save a couple bucks.
There is an objective mileage rating system for filters?
Of the two, for the fci (2x oci) noted in OP, Endurance would be my pick.
It’s largely marketing by the manufacturers to get you to try to spend a few more dollars BUT it’s also related to holding capacity which the manufacturer has data on and you don’t.
I'll probably just go with tough guard since I only plan on 10,000 to 12,000 miles and change it once a year. The price $7 and efficiency is hard to beat.
The Endurance is what the Ultra used to be and among the best filters you can buy for the money. Spend the extra $4 and sleep well for the next 10,000 to 12,000 miles.
To save money on a 10k filter.
I've actually got (2) ST3614 filters on hand. I've thought about running them for two oil changes (10,000 miles total) $3.84 filter.
BrendanC
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not the same media or construction but a good replacement.
Isn’t Wally still carrying Fram ultra for $10? M1 filter is $12. I am quoting for Honda vehicles.
Local Wallies don’t carry Endurance.
And does anyone running their filter or oil past 10k since we’re seems to aim for the best but not even tapping into the product’s advertised potential.
I am running Kirkland for whatever Honda’s oil minder says is 80% usage. I just clocked the mile so see if 50% means 5k miles yesterday as I never cross-check before and just start planning the OCI when the maintenance minder gets to 20%.
Local Wallies don’t carry Endurance.
And does anyone running their filter or oil past 10k since we’re seems to aim for the best but not even tapping into the product’s advertised potential.
I am running Kirkland for whatever Honda’s oil minder says is 80% usage. I just clocked the mile so see if 50% means 5k miles yesterday as I never cross-check before and just start planning the OCI when the maintenance minder gets to 20%.
