Hi all-on eBay there are a lot of sellers pushing remote oil filter adapters, with Fram Ultras (usually the XG8A), as inline transmission filters. I am putting a setup together for the XJ Cherokee in my sig to clean up the fluid somewhat with a dual rated Baldwin microglass filter (B2-HPG), but is there any reason an Ultra wouldn't work?
Fram Ultra as secondary transmission filter?
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How much pressure is required to force ATF through a cooler? You don't want to starve the unit of cool fluid. The engine filter is designed to work with an engine oil system pump.
That's what i'm thinking are you going to starve the trans of pressure?
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Do auto transmissions have a positive displacement oil pump? If so, adding a good flowing oil filter like the Ultra shouldn't be an issue.
Looking at the attachments for typical cooler lines it doesn't seem they expect much pressure.
Do auto transmissions have a positive displacement oil pump? If so, adding a good flowing oil filter like the Ultra shouldn't be an issue.
Looking at the attachments for typical cooler lines it doesn't seem they expect much pressure.
The cooler circuit oil is generally bypassed converter charge oil that is routed through the cooler, Then to lube the planetaries/Bushings, Then returned to the sump.
In the industry, Filters are placed in the returning cooler line only if the trans had a major hard part failure & the customer declines replacing contaminated coolers. And return the vehicle in 6 months to inspect the filter for debris & make the decision to leave it or remove it.
I don't see any reason to use a cooler line filter on any healthy unit with clean coolers.
In the industry, Filters are placed in the returning cooler line only if the trans had a major hard part failure & the customer declines replacing contaminated coolers. And return the vehicle in 6 months to inspect the filter for debris & make the decision to leave it or remove it.
I don't see any reason to use a cooler line filter on any healthy unit with clean coolers.
Originally Posted By: clinebarger
The cooler circuit oil is generally bypassed converter charge oil that is routed through the cooler, Then to lube the planetaries/Bushings, Then returned to the sump.
In the industry, Filters are placed in the returning cooler line only if the trans had a major hard part failure & the customer declines replacing contaminated coolers. And return the vehicle in 6 months to inspect the filter for debris & make the decision to leave it or remove it.
I don't see any reason to use a cooler line filter on any healthy unit with clean coolers.
Many people including myself have installed inline transmission filters. There is no negative to keeping the fluid cleaner. The added advantage of the magnet is that a lot of the contaminants are Fe and caught by the filter. It is especially nice for my Silverado where the filter is a PITA to change. While most of the contaminants come in the early age of the transmission still it can keep the fluid cleaner longer. This combined with fluid changes should keep things clean.
The cooler circuit oil is generally bypassed converter charge oil that is routed through the cooler, Then to lube the planetaries/Bushings, Then returned to the sump.
In the industry, Filters are placed in the returning cooler line only if the trans had a major hard part failure & the customer declines replacing contaminated coolers. And return the vehicle in 6 months to inspect the filter for debris & make the decision to leave it or remove it.
I don't see any reason to use a cooler line filter on any healthy unit with clean coolers.
Many people including myself have installed inline transmission filters. There is no negative to keeping the fluid cleaner. The added advantage of the magnet is that a lot of the contaminants are Fe and caught by the filter. It is especially nice for my Silverado where the filter is a PITA to change. While most of the contaminants come in the early age of the transmission still it can keep the fluid cleaner longer. This combined with fluid changes should keep things clean.
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I have magnefines on 2 vehicles and a fl1a spin on adaptor on my F150. It has been on there for 3-4 years. I change the filter out once a year along with the yearly oci. No problems with them.
Ive dissected a couple magnefines and spin on transmission filters. They do catch quite a bit of Fe that would otherwise be in circulation unless somehow being picked up by the pan magnet.
Ive dissected a couple magnefines and spin on transmission filters. They do catch quite a bit of Fe that would otherwise be in circulation unless somehow being picked up by the pan magnet.
Your transmission will die a early death if you do not run some kind of special filter in the cooler line & Lubegard Red.....
I have been assimilated....LOL.
I have been assimilated....LOL.
Originally Posted By: clinebarger
Your transmission will die a early death if you do not run some kind of special filter in the cooler line & Lubegard Red.....
I have been assimilated....LOL.
Many transmissions have issues in the 100-150k mile age. What I wonder is if you can prevent with very high success transmission failure with very regular fluid change or install an inline filter.
Your transmission will die a early death if you do not run some kind of special filter in the cooler line & Lubegard Red.....
I have been assimilated....LOL.
Many transmissions have issues in the 100-150k mile age. What I wonder is if you can prevent with very high success transmission failure with very regular fluid change or install an inline filter.
The transmission in my 84 F250 is a Ford C6 and it doesn't have an actual filter. All it has is a screen to catch big stuff.
I added a magnefine because of this. It has to be better than abrasive fluid recirculating through the trans.
I think an XG8A would make a good filter for a transmission. It has to be better than a magnefine in holding capacity and filtering capacity. The only thing its missing is the magnet but that's an easy fix.
I added a magnefine because of this. It has to be better than abrasive fluid recirculating through the trans.
I think an XG8A would make a good filter for a transmission. It has to be better than a magnefine in holding capacity and filtering capacity. The only thing its missing is the magnet but that's an easy fix.
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Originally Posted By: clinebarger
Your transmission will die a early death if you do not run some kind of special filter in the cooler line & Lubegard Red.....
I have been assimilated....LOL.
Many transmissions have issues in the 100-150k mile age. What I wonder is if you can prevent with very high success transmission failure with very regular fluid change or install an inline filter.
Regular pan drops/Filter changes & cleaning the "in pan magnet" does wonders. The 6L80E will be/is a long lived unit, Sleep well!
Originally Posted By: clinebarger
Your transmission will die a early death if you do not run some kind of special filter in the cooler line & Lubegard Red.....
I have been assimilated....LOL.
Many transmissions have issues in the 100-150k mile age. What I wonder is if you can prevent with very high success transmission failure with very regular fluid change or install an inline filter.
Regular pan drops/Filter changes & cleaning the "in pan magnet" does wonders. The 6L80E will be/is a long lived unit, Sleep well!
I have used remote transmission filters on many vehicles with no issues as of yet. I'm currently running a XG8A on my Dakota in addition to an auxiliary transmussion cooler and the stock in radiator cooler. So far so good. It seems to be holding up good as the Dakota has been the family vehicle for the past few months now and really stacking up the mileage. I think it is a good thing to have an auxiliary filter on the transmission.
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Appreciate the replies-I have 219,000 on my XJ's AW4, & don't want to finish it off/blow it up, but the fluid is pretty bad. Going with NON-synthetic Dexron III equivalent as well.
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Go the proven route and get a magnefine.
Actually going (I hope) with the best of both worlds-the Baldwin B2-HPG filter with microglass media at first, then the XG8A Ultra later on (after 5 or 6K, roughly a year), with 3 Magnesaver curved neodymium oil filter magnets on it, I'll post pictures before & after of the ATF.
Go the proven route and get a magnefine.
Actually going (I hope) with the best of both worlds-the Baldwin B2-HPG filter with microglass media at first, then the XG8A Ultra later on (after 5 or 6K, roughly a year), with 3 Magnesaver curved neodymium oil filter magnets on it, I'll post pictures before & after of the ATF.
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Go the proven route and get a magnefine.
Actually going (I hope) with the best of both worlds-the Baldwin B2-HPG filter with microglass media at first, then the XG8A Ultra later on (after 5 or 6K, roughly a year), with 3 Magnesaver curved neodymium oil filter magnets on it, I'll post pictures before & after of the ATF.
Sounds like a waste since Magnefine makes a single product proven to work and work very well.
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Go the proven route and get a magnefine.
Actually going (I hope) with the best of both worlds-the Baldwin B2-HPG filter with microglass media at first, then the XG8A Ultra later on (after 5 or 6K, roughly a year), with 3 Magnesaver curved neodymium oil filter magnets on it, I'll post pictures before & after of the ATF.
Sounds like a waste since Magnefine makes a single product proven to work and work very well.
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