fram filters

[daemonite]

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Originally posted by XS650:

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Originally posted by daemonite:
oh other thing, quality...

the frams always feel lighter, thinner and a bit more rough around the threads. You can feel a lot of shavings and grit left over from the threading. Something I never see on other filters.

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If you havn't personally seen a Fram filter destroy an engine, they're good filters.

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they arent bad...**** they make honda's domestic filters...

i'm just saying the quality control aint great.

 

[BlazerLT]

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Originally posted by daemonite:

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Originally posted by XS650:

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Originally posted by daemonite:
oh other thing, quality...

the frams always feel lighter, thinner and a bit more rough around the threads. You can feel a lot of shavings and grit left over from the threading. Something I never see on other filters.

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If you havn't personally seen a Fram filter destroy an engine, they're good filters.

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they arent bad...**** they make honda's domestic filters...

i'm just saying the quality control aint great.

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And that is why my friends Honda has cold start knock along with my Ford Escort.

Nothing like hearing a TAPTAPTAPTAP for 20 seconds when you start your car.

 

[Raven18940]

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Originally posted by labman:
I don't understand how the following disappeared from my last post.

Curious, is your Saab filter an end cap less one like the one pictured at http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=002784 ? I strongly feel a steel end cap is not the major factor in the quality of a filter. I will continue to diss Fram for the general thrown together construction, and lack of filter media until given solid documentation that their filter media is really 2-3 times better than others use.

Note, some here don't like the looks of the clicker bypass, but nobody responded when I asked for supporting data. Anybody? I am much more concerned about this since ST switched the ST 3950 to a clicker.

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Slightly edited your post so the link will work now.

Now that you mention it, it is an end-cap-less design. It must be the devils work there,

. Seriously, is there a problem with this design I should know about.

I do like the clicker bypass valve, I think it's a good idea.

 

[motorguy222]

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Originally posted by BlazerLT:
Motorguy, you need to stop arguing against FACT.

Do you know how many technical service bulletins car manufacturers have sent out telling people if they are having startup knock to NOT use a Fram filter.

80% of engine wear occurs on startup so with a Fram, you are making it even worse.

Stop arguing against proven fact.

Yes, I witnessed my friends 5.0L mustang blow the oil filter right off of the block seeig the filter media failed and collapsed inside causing an oil pressure blowout. It was a Fram. And when you saw how the insides folded up, you wouldn't be arguing endlessly about these pieces of ****.

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Do you have a link to the tech bulletins?

I havent used a Fram in a few years.

I still wonder if they are a bad as some say.

All filters have a failure rate.

The failure you mention may be withing the normal filter failure rate.

It may also have been caused by a oil pump problem.

Are there better filters? Yes.

Are there worse? That is opinion.

Are there better for the money? Most would say yes.

As has been stated,there are most likely millions and millions of Fram filters on cars right now and they seem to be doing fine.

 

[daemonite]

Hyundai issued the tech bulletins i believe...

Yeah...all filters have failures, but it seems due to the sheer numbers of FRAM's out there we see much more.

I'd guess something like 7 out of 10 DIY oil changers (maybe more) who are just average people who just change their oil use FRAM. Probably all of those cars will make it to 100k miles...

For the truly worried and careful...they would stay away from FRAM and get the best they could for their money. Fram is the average/bare minimum for filters in my book. Not great, no bad...but it'll do in a pinch

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

I just love to post in Fram threads.