Fram Extended Guard XG7317 cut open

[Vizzy]

Originally Posted By: Silver02ex

Is there prove that a $5 filter is going to make the car last longer than a $2.50 filter? If you can show me then i would be glad to switch to a more expensive filter. To this day there is ZERO difference between a $2 vs a $5 filter on a 4-5K OCI on my car.


That's the problem for marketers, there is no quantifiable proof.

If you're going to change your oil every 5k or even every 7500 mi there is no good reason to buy a "premium" filter, heck I'm sure that you could go 10k on a standard filter without any trouble at all on a modern day basic filter.

 

[Newtonville]

The $5 advertises finer filtration, that is less wear, that is what I want, even if it isn't exactly proof. I will go ahead and add the $3 per six months to the family budget. If the $2 is proven better,I would buy it.

Most people are "penny wise and pound foolish" including myself. But I stop now and again and ask why am I going to these lengths to save an amount I waste 100 times over somewhere else without hesitation. If one gets 20 mpg, a fifteen mile ride is equal to 5-10K miles savings on an oil filter. I think this is what people are getting at when they say people buy expensive cars and then turn cheap. I have to agree with that. I never buy Costco gas, and am a member, but use a top tier gas, with a 5% off card. My car gets 50+ mpg though so I don't really care about the per gal. price. I bought a 700 front load washer dryer set on sale at best buy plus 200 utility rebate and use the best detergent I can find. To each their own.

 

[Gary Allan]

Well, a car is a durable good. A filter is not. My wife and I have this discussion from time to time. When I spend money, the product of the purchase is hanging around for years, not consumed as a cafe-latte on her daily commute into work. That's what I think can be misinterpreted as being tightwadish. Recurring non-durable spending.

That's why I say never spend any more than you have to on oil, but check your scale of economy. Those who profess "cheap insurance" could be spend thrifts.

 

[AuthorEditor]

So, why not just buy Walmart SuperTech filters and oil and save even more? It meets most car manufacturers' specs. I do find it odd that some people will spend an extra $10 or more per OCI to get just the right oil, but then will plop on a $2.50 filter.

 

[Vizzy]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, a car is a durable good. A filter is not. My wife and I have this discussion from time to time. When I spend money, the product of the purchase is hanging around for years, not consumed as a cafe-latte on her daily commute into work. That's what I think can be misinterpreted as being tightwadish. Recurring non-durable spending.



I'm glad to see I have company when it comes to this fact. WHen it comes to durable goods I buy the best quality that I can find and am willing to spend significantly more to get it.

I think a lot of people have lost the ability to discern what makes a good "value" . Today marketing hacks have convinced the public that "value" equates with "cheap to buy" nothing could be further from the truth.


Bottom line if a cheaper product does the same or very close to the same job and it is a disposable item, I choose that item....
Hence the Fram orange can is NOT a good value, or cheap, not to mention that it is of lesser quality than most competing products at the same or quite a bit lower price point.

 

[ThirdeYe]

Originally Posted By: Silver02ex
Originally Posted By: Vizzy
Wow....9 dollars for a oil filter that you throw out?

It may be good but you can buy something comparable from Mahle for about 4$ online that will do just as good if not better job.

Fram just amazes me.


When I tell people I buy an ST for $2.50, I usually hear "spend a $1 or $2 more and get a Purolator, since it's better" When someone spend $8 on a filter there's always going to be someone who will say " That's too much, spend $2 or $3 less and get xxx brand of filter"

I remember one time I went to Wal-Mart to recycle some oil/filters, and the young worker there told me "Why are you using a SuperTech? Why not spend a dollar more and get a Fram?!"

I simply told him that he should cut one open sometime. You don't always get what you pay for.

 

[NightRiderQ45]

Originally Posted By: AuthorEditor
So, why not just buy Walmart SuperTech filters and oil and save even more? It meets most car manufacturers' specs. I do find it odd that some people will spend an extra $10 or more per OCI to get just the right oil, but then will plop on a $2.50 filter.

I'm seriously thinking about doing this after my my val syn power is used on my next oci. For 4-5k oci's, Super Tech oil will do just fine! And after looking at that thread, its numbers were above average.

 

[D Bone]

Originally Posted By: Silver02ex
Originally Posted By: D Bone
Spend 30K for a car, then worry about a few bucks twice a year...............Go figure.



If your post is directed towards me, what I spent on my car is not even close to 30K it's not even half of that. If that's your logic, maybe I should find the most expensive gas to fill up and not go to Costo or Sam's club to fill up. I spent $3,000 on a washer and dryer last year, maybe I should use the most expensive detergent that's on the market vs a house brand. It's not that most people are cheap, it's why spend more when one product meet their needs. Is there prove that a $5 filter is going to make the car last longer than a $2.50 filter? If you can show me then i would be glad to switch to a more expensive filter. To this day there is ZERO difference between a $2 vs a $5 filter on a 4-5K OCI on my car.



It wasn't directed just at you, but rather my opinion on everybody who posts about saving $2-$6 when buying a filter twice per year. Not life or death, just my opinion.