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Fram Endurance - synthetic and wire backed
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It’s starting to sound a lot like paint now. And Fram is to filters as Behr is to paint. Just like Behr has their good(Premium Plus), better(Ultra), best(Marquee) and good but why for the price(Dynasty), Fram’s going that same direction with Extra Guard/Drive, Tough Guard/Force, Ultra(and Titanium) and Endurance.
I was at Walmart and the Depot and many of their EGs are still the old Fram design, but the HD PH7317/4967 are E-Cores.
Nayov cut his open here:I'm looking but?!
So in turn I decided to check filtration performance. I’m taking off a 7k mile Ultra today and collecting an OA sample, and installing the FE10575. Then I’ve got a lengthy loop planned over the next week, and I’ll pull another sample after that and get particle counts on both samples with no oil change in between.
FE 7317 has typical Fram style tapping plate. Even more obvious white Champion type dome markings.
FE 3600 looks like a Champion, yellowish Champion type markings...
FE 3600 looks like a Champion, yellowish Champion type markings...
I have two FE3600s and an FE10575 on the table that I will post pics of later.
They are charging you about $4 more to put the screen back in. $12.97 a filter for .20 worth of screening!
Considering it appears to be the same filter that Royal purple or Amsoil sell for $15-20+ , and with what a Wix XP or Purolator Boss go for these days, it's competitively priced for the type of construction, First Brands should have just kept the original Ultra design and raised the price.
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If your a 5K oil changer like me and you use a quality filter for 3 or 4 oil changes
The cost of the filter is a mute point
First Brands must lurk here on BITOG-I've said the exact same thing since the "new & improved" Ultra hit the scene!
...That and the special rectangular spiraled-stamped center tube that creates a counter clockwise rotational mini-cyclone that sucks oil from the special wire-backed media!! All for $12.97 too!! Plus... It's "NEW"!!
Yea they don't seem to do so well in the customer service department, at least in regards to emails. It has been over a month now since I emailed them in regards to the end cap situation on the Extra Guards when people found some with metal end caps, I would of at least preferred a response that doesn't have a conclusive answer then to just be ignored.
They need to work on that for sure.
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IF memory serves me the original Ultra was about 11 to 12 bucks when first introduced, but before long Wally's had them down in the 8 something range. Maybe the same will occur here when they don't sell fast enough.
Maybe when Chassity see's emails she actually does her job and responds. Others probably just ignore emails.
Pretty sure chassity is the one who told me it was a discontinued filter until I sent her a picture of it
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The email did say that they haven’t been launched yet and are waiting on cataloging which I thought was odd since they are obviously being sold now.
Thanks Chevy454z71 for the post.
I guess Nayov must be a time traveler...Fram states that it hasn't been released yet. Sorry, but sounds like a Clown operation, not corporation. I admit that I'm a devoted Fram Ultra customer, but it is what it is!
Ive got 3 of them in my basement, i would say they are released.
