Fram 7317 vs EcoGard x4610

[jh2002]

Hello all,

For years, I've been using Fram PH7317's on my and my kids' cars (2013 Subaru XTrek, 2014 Subaru Outback, 2015 Honda Fit, 2020 Subaru Crosstrek).

Now that this filter is no longer available, I'm wondering/hoping that the Ecogard x4610 is compatible with all of these cars.

Ecogard claims that their x4610 is a suitable replacement for the Fram 7317. However Ecogard does not include the Subaru's amongst the compatible cars (it does say it's correct for the Honda Fit). Fram listed all of them (the Subaru's and the Honda) as compatible with their 7317.

I know from reading this forum that the bypass pressure specs for the Subaru's are markedly different/higher than those for the Honda's, so now I'm completely puzzled how any single filter can be an appropriate fit for Subaru's and Honda's the way Fram claimed with the 7317.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

- James

 

[BrendanC]

a step up in multiple ways. ecoguards are built by premium guard. look for “carquest premium 84356 C&P” on here it’s the extended life version but very similar construction.

 

[Zee09]

Hello all,

For years, I've been using Fram PH7317's on my and my kids' cars (2013 Subaru XTrek, 2014 Subaru Outback, 2015 Honda Fit, 2020 Subaru Crosstrek).

Now that this filter is no longer available, I'm wondering/hoping that the Ecogard x4610 is compatible with all of these cars.

Ecogard claims that their x4610 is a suitable replacement for the Fram 7317. However Ecogard does not include the Subaru's amongst the compatible cars (it does say it's correct for the Honda Fit). Fram listed all of them (the Subaru's and the Honda) as compatible with their 7317.

I know from reading this forum that the bypass pressure specs for the Subaru's are markedly different/higher than those for the Honda's, so now I'm completely puzzled how any single filter can be an appropriate fit for Subaru's and Honda's the way Fram claimed with the 7317.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

- James

Welcome aboard....one James to another... I used that model in Hondas and Mitsubishis for years as
Well as mowers. EG synthetic filters are great...no issues and a heavy can with silicone goodness...
Subaru always tries to be special..

 

[bullwinkle]

The Subarus need 22 PSI, technically the PH7317 isn’t a high enough bypass rating. Rock Auto has a pretty nice price on the Premium Guard ones, like $2.35 each plus shipping.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

For the Subarus, use Ecogard S4615

The Honda use the S4610

 

[Hootbro]

I think you need Ecogard X4615.

This is a prime example of why people need to be careful of cross referencing across multiple oil filter makers and eventually the degrees of separation will fall out of compatibility. Oil filter makers are more concerned about SKU consolidation many times and will play with the margins of what is "compatible" in their lineup but is not in another filter maker lineup because they will actually have additional SKU's that are more application specific.

 

[DannyM]

Now that this filter is no longer available, I'm wondering/hoping that the Ecogard x4610 is compatible with all of these cars.

You use that PH so you prefer the basic filters...

I think this is specified for your Subaru's and it's the Premium Guard network of factories that make the Ecogard and the other models listed here below (Pronto, Parts Plus) https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6839080&cc=3445764&pt=5340&jsn=521

These for your Honda Fit : https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=15222901&cc=3309725&pt=5340&jsn=480 .. or
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6839072&cc=0&pt=5340&jsn=632&optionchoice=0-0-0-1

 

[jh2002]

Thank you very much for the valuable information and suggestions.

It's truly sad that we cannot simply rely on filter manufacturers (I'm talking to you, FRAM) when they claim their filters (eg PH7317) are suitable for certain cars (Subaru's) when in fact those filters do not meet OEM specs.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I've never seen a vehicle manufacturer call out an oil filter bypass valve spec. If they list one, it's for their specific OEM filter, not every aftermarket filter. Could be their filters are pretty restrictive and need a higher bypass setting. Some of the setting is due to oil pump flow rate, and some Subarus have big pumps. If you look at many brands of oil filters for the same engine they are not all set to bypass at the same pressure.