FP3000 - Reviews

[moribundman]

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As an act of goodwill to our loyal web customers. We needed to guage interest to see if it was worth the time and effort.

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Those two statements are clearly in conflict.

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How so? If only 5 customers wanted to order then no we would not have done it.

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So no goodwill after all? If goodwill isn't done out of kindness, but for profit reasons, it isn't goodwill.

If the online customers, which made up a measly 10% of your customers, had not shown interest in the creation of FP 3000 that case you wouldn't have made FP 3000 available to the bulk buyers, which constituted 90% of your customers?

Or was it the support of all those online customers that enabled you to even come up with the product for the bulk customers? In that case, giving the insignificant number of online customers what they wanted shouldn't be called "goodwill."

These are just my thoughts, based on what I read. I have no issues with a business scratching funds together and trying to make a profit. But I'd be careful calling the delivery of the promised product an act of goodwill.

 

[biomed_eng_2000]

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Any reviews of FP3000?

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From my phonecalls with Lube Control, I got the impression that their core and primary customers have always been the fleets.

I'll buy some FP3000 when it becomes available again.

One of many definitions of Goodwill - "A good relationship, as of a business with its customers or a nation with other nations."
From: The American Heritage®
Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

 

[LCD]

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As an act of goodwill to our loyal web customers. We needed to guage interest to see if it was worth the time and effort.

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Those two statements are clearly in conflict.

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How so? If only 5 customers wanted to order then no we would not have done it.

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So no goodwill after all? If goodwill isn't done out of kindness, but for profit reasons, it isn't goodwill.

If the online customers, which made up a measly 10% of your customers, had not shown interest in the creation of FP 3000 that case you wouldn't have made FP 3000 available to the bulk buyers, which constituted 90% of your customers?

Or was it the support of all those online customers that enabled you to even come up with the product for the bulk customers? In that case, giving the insignificant number of online customers what they wanted shouldn't be called "goodwill."

These are just my thoughts, based on what I read. I have no issues with a business scratching funds together and trying to make a profit. But I'd be careful calling the delivery of the promised product an act of goodwill.

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Putting together the online preorder was goodwill.....regardless of what you see on the forums. If you were on this side you would understand the situation.

The creation of FP3000 has nothing to do with web/retail customers. We created FP3000 for fleets and the word got out here on BITOG.

Our bulk/fleet orders drive our business and support all other efforts including website/retail sales. FP3000 would have been created regardless.


To answer biomed 200-300 gallons/month would meet the requirements for fleet. 30 drums a month for bulk.

 

[mckennaiii]

i have been 100% satisified with lube control lc20 and fp60 and the tech support and shipping. i appreciate that they have made an effort to bring fp3000 to market and when it becomes available again i'll likely try some. right now, lc20 and fp60 have made a difference in my three cars and i'm a happy customer. my only regret, that i didn't fine lc20 and fp60 sooner.

 

[T-Keith]

I just received my FP3000 last week. I had a little FP60 left, but I will start using FP3000 soon. To those who care, I'll try and post any results I get.

 

[Stooge]

Well then - hurry up and offer the new stuff to the one/two gallon web-buyer - we want to try the new FP too!!

 

[Bobby Johnson]

Stooge,
LCD did offer the FP3000 to the one/two gallon web-buyer through the pre-order process they just completed. If I had known they were going to pull the plug so soon on selling the FP3000 to the retail market, I would have ordered much more than I did.

I can understand LCD's position with regards on how to best market their products. Our family operates a small business here in East Central Indiana. We're constantly balancing what we would really like to do with doing what is best in order for us to stay afloat financially.

My best advice would be for everyone to keep purchasing LC20 and FP60 and maybe LCD will be encouraged to offer FP3000 at the retail level once again in the near future. Until then, I will carefully guard and hoard my own supply of FP3000.

 

[Stooge]

Yeap - I figured it would just replace the old FP. Probably will in the future.

 

[Laminar Lou]

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You are sure??? You have done calorimetry and know the lower heating value of FPxxxx??

I doubt it, and this is why I have fought this claim of FP since day 1 when mola's report came out.

Show me the data comapring its heating value to gasoline.

I am a loyal FP user, but not because of its supposed improement due to its energy density... and besdes, at the trat rate, it would have to have nearly infinite energy density to actually enhance that of the bulk fluid.

I like FP for its cleaning and lubricity capability. As such Ill likely only continue using FP60 (since its cheaper), though I just got my gallon of 3000...

JMH

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Nope, I don't have a calorimeter at home so yes I took it on faith that Mola and LCD weren't lying.

Have you tested it? Why do you doubt Mola's findings?