Nick1994
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Ford may have an MSRP of $40k, but the dealer will rip everyone off and price at $60k
Do you think so? I'm on the fence: in demand models they can do that, but has demand for an EV truck really been shown to exist? IMO Ford might have to put their foot down and prohibit overcharging ? [not sure they can do that, laws and whatnot, but let's ignore that for a moment.] Last thing the motor company wants is the public to think these trucks are overpriced--and not selling. IMO it's better to sell at cost, get sales going, get the public happy to buy, then price for profit later. [Only the dealerships lose out on that, and I'm not sure anyone would shed a tear about that.] Maybe only build a limited number at first, that way they can limit losses, and raise prices later.Ford may have an MSRP of $40k, but the dealer will rip everyone off and price at $60k
It’s happening with the Mach-E, Corvette, and the Hellcat models.Do you think so? I'm on the fence: in demand models they can do that, but has demand for an EV truck really been shown to exist? IMO Ford might have to put their foot down and prohibit overcharging ? [not sure they can do that, laws and whatnot, but let's ignore that for a moment.] Last thing the motor company wants is the public to think these trucks are overpriced--and not selling. IMO it's better to sell at cost, get sales going, get the public happy to buy, then price for profit later. [Only the dealerships lose out on that, and I'm not sure anyone would shed a tear about that.] Maybe only build a limited number at first, that way they can limit losses, and raise prices later.
Initially I figured dealers wouldn't carry any $40K msrp configurations. A year from now, who knows. Ford did announce production will be limited. My guess is they price significantly higher.Do you think so? I'm on the fence: in demand models they can do that, but has demand for an EV truck really been shown to exist? IMO Ford might have to put their foot down and prohibit overcharging ? [not sure they can do that, laws and whatnot, but let's ignore that for a moment.] Last thing the motor company wants is the public to think these trucks are overpriced--and not selling. IMO it's better to sell at cost, get sales going, get the public happy to buy, then price for profit later. [Only the dealerships lose out on that, and I'm not sure anyone would shed a tear about that.] Maybe only build a limited number at first, that way they can limit losses, and raise prices later.
yep a hybrid BEV ALA Rex styleImpressive truck, I think they just need a diesel generator option for guys who need to drive far, or are out in the country where there's no charging station ever to be found. I presume its easier to make a diesel emissions compliant when its only got to run at one speed and at most efficient loading.
I've said it before but it bears repeating. 99.99% of commutes are well within the range of this truck, towing or not. That said, yeah, it's not for everyone. But the majority of trucks are just glorified "Home Depot on the weekend " commuters. For the few that are hauling a "10,000 lb camper over the mountains", it's probably not for you or maybe you rent for those times. But I am sure we will get the usual luddites here tell us an electric truck is folly. And don't forget.....batteries are improving....Edit: Ford did a brilliant job with their f-150 Lightning marketing ads. They are really hammering it in how useful an EV truck is for doing hard labor work. It's being advertised more like a cordless power drill that can smash through anything like Chuck Norris. This is 100% the right thing to do to market an EV truck in the USA. No hint of Bay Area soy-nerds behind this at all, which can be a major turn off for many potential truck buyers.
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I love how literally every time a new EV truck is announced/teased every Joe Beerbelly suddenly remembers he uses his truck to haul a T-Rex over the Rocky Mountains every day of the week, and could never be forced into the horror of having to wait at a charging station. You know, the alternate reality that most dudes use their trucks like others use a Honda Civic for commuting 10-30 miles a day to a job that doesn't require a truck.
I have several bass-fishing buddies who each have never once ever driven out of state (usually fly) in the last 10 years. You can go most anywhere in our state with 200+ miles of range if starting near the center. They both spend at least 20 minutes each time we go out fishing when a new EV truck is in the news, complaining about how stupid it is that you have to wait a few minutes to recharge when on a road trip. LOL
Now, there are plenty of guys who do use their trucks for actual work and have to drive long distances without stops, but you really kind of have to eye-roll the rest of the blokes who think they belong to a category they actually don't belong to.
I can picture Jeff’s future signature … 2022 Lightning with those top two … some below that soldDrive one. You will forget about range.
Correct. Will be too occupied with how the regenerative braking feel ruins the driving experience.Drive one. You will forget about range.
1 pedal driving is the BOMB! I hope my new Lightning has it!Correct. Will be too occupied with how the regenerative braking feel ruins the driving experience.
Maybe Ford could add some optional oil sumps and tell the old farts here this needs to be changed every 10k......that would appease them.1 pedal driving is the BOMB! I hope my new Lightning has it!
It will be great for going to the dump!!!
Problem with Target, gocery stores, etc is that I am not stopping there while traveling. I am only going to think about charging when I am 200+ miles from home. McDs is at every other exit on every highway on the East Coast.Most McD remodeling recently I have seen tore away the kid's playground or shrink it, and increase drive through lane. They likely don't want you to get into the store and sit for 15 mins, and oh btw, now let's sit for a bit longer since we are not 250 miles yet.
Where will you see these chargers? Shopping mall, Target, Grocery stores, Costco, etc. The higher profit retailer.
Drive one. You will forget about range.
In a heartbeat. I think Ford got 45K reservations in the 1st 2 days...Maybe he will also forget about the cost of upgrading his panel too?
In a heartbeat. I think Ford got 45K reservations in the 1st 2 days...
Or is just shows how good these things are.Well this exposes the fallacy of the selling of these things. “Just drive it and you will be sold.” That has been pushed here quite a bit but there is more to any vehicle ownership than just driving it. A $10k electrical upgrade is not anything to sneeze at either.
A sensible person will consider all these things before buying. As with most anything, buying on emotion is a horrible way to spend money.