Ford MC Filters Getting A Update

[JWC86]

Looks like the FL820S and some others are getting replaced.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/at...I3TtDJKGoGy3FPrWWCB_ih-i_Tz4RRh4s82gRK-X_-UMg

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Ecore is better than Purolator

 

[NRMedic]

Yes, they're all basically a red can purolator with ecore.

Side note, this is also old info.

 

[MParr]

It looks like Motorcraft is changing their supplier. Are we seeing a Champ Labs filter?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Linked PDF shows that the FL-2119-B12 & FL-2122-B12 (Original Equipment: FL1A and FL820SB12) are not eCore center tubes with metal end caps. The eCore models are not metal end caps.

Also, looks like the base plate bypass valve in now gone ... so probably not really an "upgrade" in that respect.

 

[KCJeep]

So I wonder what their definition of high efficiency media is?

And they can’t change these, I’ve got them all and their Fram number equivalents memorized!

 

[JWC86]

Yes, they're all basically a red can purolator with ecore.

Side note, this is also old info.

I had no idea.

What’s the consensus on this, is it a upgrade from the old 820s?

 

[Scott S]

I wonder if they're going to do it, to all of them? If they did that with the fl-500s, I think I prefer metal end caps.

 

[mpack88]

I notice these part numbers on rockauto.com. Don't see why they wanted to change the part number though.

 

[bullwinkle]

I had no idea.

What’s the consensus on this, is it a upgrade from the old 820s?

I would liken them more to the Super Tech 20K & Champ XL-Ecore (or possibly metal) center tube, synblend media construction, silicone ADBV, either metal or fiber endcap. Considering the past tearing issues with the Purolator Motorcraft FL820S filters, I would consider them an upgrade.

 

[bullwinkle]

I notice these part numbers on rockauto.com. Don't see why they wanted to change the part number though.

I think Ford was just trying to differentiate them from the old style Purolator/Mann ones. Guessing Ford got tired of all the MC complaints, finally...

 

[paulri]

The 910s and the 810a (the older ones, not the newer ones in the ad above) were both at 80% for 20 microns. I got that confirmed in an email to motorcraft parts division. I have no idea what the newer ones are; if they aren't advertising their newer filters as being more efficient, they're probably not. Which isn't a complaint. I would be using them if they didn't have an issue with cuts into the ADBVs.

So I wonder what their definition of high efficiency media is?

And they can’t change these, I’ve got them all and their Fram number equivalents memorized!

 

[ZeeOSix]

The 910s and the 810a (the older ones, not the newer ones in the ad above) were both at 80% for 20 microns. I got that confirmed in an email to motorcraft parts division. I have no idea what the newer ones are; if they aren't advertising their newer filters as being more efficient, they're probably not. Which isn't a complaint. I would be using them if they didn't have an issue with cuts into the ADBVs.

They will most likely meet USCAR-36 since Motorcraft has been touting that for many years. USCAR-36 says the efficiency has to me at least 95% @ 30 microns (not hard to meet). Being that the updated FL-2121-B12, for the FL-500S is now an eCore with bonded fiber end caps, I think most will be looking for a different filter before going with the updated Motorcraft.

 

[Scott S]

Where'd you hear that the FL 500 s is now an Ecore?

 

[NRMedic]

Where'd you hear that the FL 500 s is now an Ecore?

Ready pg3 of the pdf. Shows Ecore

 

[cb_13]

Well, even more of my knowledge has become useless. I’ve known tons of MC filter numbers, many of their applications even non Ford and their cross references for many years now. But the times they are a changing.

 

[AuthorEditor]

I wonder if the old numbers will still be available on the aftermarket? I purchased a FL-1A at Walmart within the last month.

 

[JWC86]

Thanks for the info guys.

I put a order in for a 12 pack of FL820S filters.

 

[JWC86]

Having second thoughts about the FL820S with all you here about the tears and now excess glue residue, etc.

Seems the only thing going for them is the base end bypass and the low cost…

Thoughts?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Having second thoughts about the FL820S with all you here about the tears and now excess glue residue, etc.

Seems the only thing going for them is the base end bypass and the low cost…

Thoughts?

Per the PDF linked in post #1, the updated Motorcraft FL-2122-B12 that replaces the FL-820S has a metal center tube and metal end caps. Just doesn't have the base end bypass, but apparently Ford is not that concerned about it anymore, otherwise they would have retained the base end bypass design.