Scott S
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Well in my case I'm saving about $1,200What do you think you're saving rather than going to the Stealership close to 3K is my guess.
Well in my case I'm saving about $1,200What do you think you're saving rather than going to the Stealership close to 3K is my guess.
For the cam phasers? That feels unlikely....??Valve cover gasket kit comes with them little seals..
I was thinking of the VCT solenoids, the little o rings..For the cam phasers? That feels unlikely....??
I was thinking of the VCT solenoids, the little o rings..
There's tiny o-rings on the cam inside the phasers. They're responsible for maintaining oil pressure to the phasers.I was thinking of the VCT solenoids, the little o rings..
The cam phasers come with the kit, don't they have o-rings on themThere's tiny o-rings on the cam inside the phasers. They're responsible for maintaining oil pressure to the phasers.
It's your call but if available I'd absolutely replace them. It's a huge job to later find out skimping on two tiny o-rings throws a code
edit: or is two per cam, so four total??
I used a Mahle valve cover gasket kit and don't recall any problems.
You're replacing the phasers? I didn't see that in your initial parts list. I don't think it's considered SOP on these timing jobs?The cam phasers come with the kit, don't they have o-rings on them
In order to change the VCT seals you need to pull the cams out. There are 2 split ring Teflon seals per cam.There's tiny o-rings on the cam inside the phasers. They're responsible for maintaining oil pressure to the phasers.
It's your call but if available I'd absolutely replace them. It's a huge job to later find out skimping on two tiny o-rings throws a code
edit: or is two per cam, so four total??
I used a Mahle valve cover gasket kit and don't recall any problems.
Ok my mistake. There was some tiny o-ring in the phasers when I slid them off. Easy to lose if you're not watching for itIn order to change the VCT seals you need to pull the cams out. There are 2 split ring Teflon seals per cam.
No I'm not replacing themYou're replacing the phasers? I didn't see that in your initial parts list. I don't think it's considered SOP on these timing jobs?
I imagine OEM phasers are at least $250 ea (guessing) so that must add at least $500 in parts??
Ok my mistake. There was some tiny o-ring in the phasers when I slid them off. Easy to lose if you're not watching for it
I should do a 2023 - labor rate thread, but ALL of the dealers around here just bumped their rates to the low/mid $200 range.That’s even more crazy. These can be done in less than an 8 hour day if you know what you’re doing. All you need for parts is a valve cover set, water pump, timing chain kit, a tube of RTV, a front seal and some coolant. Definitely not 4200$. That’s a get lost price.
I should do a 2023 - labor rate thread, but ALL of the dealers around here just bumped their rates to the low/mid $200 range.
It will definitely go up from $2000 if I go with OEM parts.. I can't even imagine, LOL I'll find out tomorrow..That is reasonable. Some of the prices the OP has gotten is nuts. With the price I gave him he’d still be ahead even with that Indy shop price
It will definitely go up from $2000 if I go with OEM parts.. I can't even imagine, LOL I'll find out tomorrow..
Paging Parts Dept, @bdcardinalThe OEM timing chain has been on back order on and off lately. Not sure if it still is.