Ford Eco-boost vs silverado 5.3

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Originally Posted By: millerbl00
The new Silverado has aluminum suspension components. Any aluminum suspension componet connected to a dissimilar metal can setup a resonance that can loosen componets. GM and Ford are using aluminum.


Ask one of the 477 how they feel

As a manufacturer you have to over design to take into account real world situtions. They are cutting the specs too close to save a penny


Resonance? You're really reaching now. Keep it up, it's very entertaining!
 
Originally Posted By: millerbl00
Look like we did not have to wait long for the new tech to fail...


Other vehicles called back by GM Thursday include 103,158 older Chevrolet Corvettes for a headlight problem, 140,067 Chevrolet Malibus from the 2014 model year for a hydraulic brake booster malfunction, 19,225 Cadillac CTS 2013-14 models for windshield wiper failures and 477 full-size trucks from the 2014 and 2015 model years for a tie-rod defect that can lead to a crash

I've missed your Chicken Little new car rants. Welcome back!
 
Originally Posted By: millerbl00
Until that tie rod comes loose and you wreck.


No that wouldn't happen.
 
Originally Posted By: Uregina09
I have a 2011 F150 with the Ecoboost engine in Regina. I've had it since I purchased it new in May, 2011. It's a crew cab 4-wheel drive with a 3.55 rear-axle.

The best I've ever done was a summer trip to Candle Lake and back (950kms) hauling air - 11.8 litres/100 kilometres. Typically, I do between 12.5-13.5 litres/100 kilometres on the highway with my wife, two girls and all their "stuff" in the box. That's driving 120kms/hr (sorry, I don't know what that equates to in mpg). I typically do a bit better than my brother-in-law- who has my truck, but a 2010 with the 5.4.

In the winter, driving mostly city is between 16-17 litres/100 kilometres.

I don't use my truck for business, but the power (torque) is intoxicating and its all available below 2,500 rpm. My dad has towed a 22 foot enclosed trailer back from the U.S. full of building supplies and he said it tows like a dream. I don't mean to start anything here, but my truck is way "tighter" than how I remember my old 2004 Chev Silverado (which I only kept for 20,000kms from new).....fewer squeaks and rattles and just overall a better truck.

If you're buying an Ecoboost for great mileage, you'll be disappointed. In my opinion, it's the best overall truck out there.


11.8L / 100km = 19.6 mpg
 
Originally Posted By: millerbl00
The new Silverado has aluminum suspension components. Any aluminum suspension componet connected to a dissimilar metal can setup a resonance that can loosen componets. GM and Ford are using aluminum.


Ask one of the 477 how they feel

As a manufacturer you have to over design to take into account real world situtions. They are cutting the specs too close to save a penny


From GM's news release on the tie rod recall:

"The fifth recall involves certain 2014 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra light duty pickups and 2015 model year Chevrolet Tahoe SUVs. The tie rod threaded attachment to the steering gear rack in these vehicles may not be tightened to specification. With this condition, the tie rod can separate from the steering rack and a crash could occur without prior warning. Customers are being contacted and told to have their vehicles taken by flatbed to their dealer, where the inner tie rods will be inspected for correct torque, and, if necessary, the steering gear will be replaced. The repair procedure was being sent to dealers and owner letters sent by overnight mail to customers on May 14. The issue was discovered and corrected during assembly after the small number of vehicles was released."

The recall has nothing to do with the tie rod material. It was improper torquing at assembly.
 
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
So what? 477 out of what a few million trucks? Sounds like a bad batch of parts from a supplier.


My first thought was Bubba was too interested in after work meet up at Hooters to watch Monday Night Football to worry about assembly properly on the line.
 
Then there is the AFM feature that has caused a lot of owners some serious grief over oil consumption issues that have cropped up in them. Reason that a lot of us who own AFM equipped 5.3L engines to disable the AFM from kicking in. And with all the mods that GM has done to address these issues, they still keep cropping up here and there, with full lifter replacement being common. Several TSB's out on this.

The one thing that has piqued my interest in the ecoboost Ford is the availability of peak torque at lower RPM. After all, when pulling something from the start, no one is popping 4500+ rpm. At least not out here in farm country yanking a fuel wagon out of the field.
 
Don't worry when you start having problems and the dealership will not help you will rant too.




Originally Posted By: whip
Originally Posted By: millerbl00
Look like we did not have to wait long for the new tech to fail...


Other vehicles called back by GM Thursday include 103,158 older Chevrolet Corvettes for a headlight problem, 140,067 Chevrolet Malibus from the 2014 model year for a hydraulic brake booster malfunction, 19,225 Cadillac CTS 2013-14 models for windshield wiper failures and 477 full-size trucks from the 2014 and 2015 model years for a tie-rod defect that can lead to a crash

I've missed your Chicken Little new car rants. Welcome back!
 
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Buy what you like. If the Ford feels the most comfortable and you are not sure of the Eco-bost, buy the 5.0. The price seems close enough that it does not matter.. 2 years from now you do not want to be saying " I wish I had bought the Ford". Thanks
 
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
I'd rather have the 5.3 which should be more durable and let's expensive to repair.


Thanks what I was thinking too. And the chev warranty is unbeatable.

But I keep eyeballing those fords and I start drooling.
The 5.0 is my dream engine,even though the wrong body is wrapped around it,and I've been googling the Eco-boost and I'm not seeing anything that really concerns me.
Once we get finished and paid out for the 4 storey apartment block(month or so)we've decided that unless the financing rate is 1% or less we'll just buy them outright,which gives us a whole lot more leverage as far as cost.
If we go with the 5.0 instead of the Eco-boost that drops the price 1500 per truck which then makes the ford 3500 more per unit over and above the Chevy.
However if we are buying outright the dodge,and the hemi becomes a contender because we aren't concerned about their rediculous 5% financing.

I appreciate everyone's input,especially the owners of the vehicles in question.
AFM/MDS is a definite must have if going with a v8 and I haven't looked too deeply into the dodge yet at far as whether the hemi comes with an 8 speed gearbox in 2014,which I would really consider if available.
Nothing is set in stone yet though.

Thanks guys
 
Originally Posted By: millerbl00
Don't worry when you start having problems and the dealership will not help you will rant too.

The difference is I would rant about the dealer or my specific problem. I wouldn't post on every thread that all new cars are junk.
 
Originally Posted By: millerbl00
Just can't face reality, hard lessons are the best ones learned.


Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Good for you.
 
Originally Posted By: A_Harman


The recall has nothing to do with the tie rod material. It was improper torquing at assembly.



IIRC, GM had a similar issue with the NNBS ('07-'14) involving a steering linkage fastener. It was resolved fairly early and quickly in that instance.

Obviously, GM is not looking too good at the moment with the recent recall scandals. But there are very few new models that don't have some "teething" issues. This tie rod issue seems to fall in that category. It's not like Ford trucks haven't had their issues over the years, too. It's the nature of the beasts.

Honestly, both of these trucks are very solid performers. Each has some advantages over the other. It just depends on which virtues are most important to you.
 
I am referring to YOU!


Originally Posted By: whip
Originally Posted By: millerbl00
Just can't face reality, hard lessons are the best ones learned.


Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Good for you.
 
Originally Posted By: Clevy

AFM/MDS is a definite must have if going with a v8 . . .


AFM isn't some fuel-saving panecea, and doesn't really save all that much fuel in my experience. Maybe 1 mpg overall if I drive like a granny. You can feel a slight difference in engine rhythm when it's running on 4. Much prefer to feel all 8 firing. If I could have our truck without it, I would happily do so.

But at least on the GM 5.3 AFM, all the bugs now seem all worked out, and it does work fairly seamlessly. The 5.3 is otherwise a tried and true power plant with a very solid record.
 
Originally Posted By: millerbl00
I am referring to YOU!


Originally Posted By: whip
Originally Posted By: millerbl00
Just can't face reality, hard lessons are the best ones learned.


Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Good for you.

Because you had one bad vehicle, you label all new vehicles as junk. Are you sure I'm the one that can't face reality?
 
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