Did the "Pill Flip" mod for a friend's 6L80 2018 Chevrolet 1500

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So, he just got this truck and it had a brand new transmission put in before he got it. He has the paperwork. It has around 70-73k miles on it. I thought that was odd.

So, we were making an unloaded trip that was 4 hours long. Just being excited to check out his new truck, I had him flipping through sensors on the dash as we were doing 70-80mph down the interstate. The transmission temp popped up. It was showing 245F... then 260F and eventually hit 272F or so. I told him we should let it cool down.

When we made it back home, I studied up on it for him. SEEMS to be an issue with ALL the 6L80's. The thermostat stays closed and doesn't let the trans fluid get cooled through the radiator. I saw a free mod I could do for him known as the "Pill Flip." I did it and also took out the thermostat pin or whatever it is so it didn't happen to push itself out and get lost in the thermostat cooler.

Anyways, it's been cold here lately. It's 17F right now at 6:20AM where I'm at in TN. He rides to work up a mountain with lots of curves and whatnot. A slow drive, but a lot of shifting and speeding up and slowing down for turns.

He said it's been running at around 130-140F on this trip. Now, he uses his truck to work and usually tows a trailer of sheep that weighs around 7500-8000 pounds (trailer + sheep). And it'll be on the interstate when he does do it, so I'm sure going 70-80mph pulling 8000 pounds will have it running a bit warmer, maybe 165-180F, we'll see.

But do you think I messed up by doing this for him? I expected it to cool it down, but 130F seems AWFULLY cool. I don't know if it's the slow driving + the 20F temperatures we're experiencing right now or what.

I'm also changing his fluid and filter for him this weekend. I told him to get an AC Delco filter. Not sure which fluid he got... either Dexron VI Valvoline or Castrol, I can't remember. It may have been AC Delco, actually. I told him to always use AC Delco filters on GMs, Motorcraft filters on Fords and Mopar filters on Dodges. I dunno, I'll update y'all with what kind of parts he got.

I'm hoping he got a nice AC Delco trans filter that comes with the good gasket (rubber with metal in the middle). I told him I usually reuse transmission pan filters when the new filters come with that cork material because they're hard to beat. But I think it won't hurt to change it if it's the same style as the factory gasket. Especially a gasket that's been running at 270+F degrees for who knows how long.

He's also going to get the delete kit that eliminates that V8 to V4 thing they do to save fuel. He has read that's what has been tearing the transmissions up. I beg to differ, but I don't blame him for wanting to get rid of it. It kicks in and out a lot on the interstate to begin with, and he says it does it real bad when he's towing.

I told him he should get a tune, have it removed, get some better shift points and add a few hosrepower. BUT this delete kit he's looking at is $80, apparently, and plugs into the OBDII port so I get it. $80 is a lot easier on the wallet than a $500+ tune. Or $500 OBDII handheld tuner + paying someone to do the tune lol. Although, I FIGURE he could buy an OBDII thing like he's getting to delete the V8 to V4 eco trash with a one size fits all tune, right? I'll have to look that up for him.

Sorry for the long post. What do you think about the 130-135F trans fluid temps he's getting now? Think it's due to the slow driving and 18-20F degree temperatures outside? I'm real curious what temps it'll hit with the fluid/filter change because he's going to make a 6 hour drive towing 8000+ pounds down the interstate. I'm hoping he says it hovers around 160F or so, maybe 175F considering the weight and speed.
 
It should be fine considering the driving he usually does and the towing will help get the fluid up to temp. I'd rather have the fluid be cooler than keep overheating and cook the transmission again. Seems like a poor cooler design.
 
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Plus we got pretty warm summers so that should bring the temp up a bit, too. Now, no clue how accurate this is, but I saw someone say somewhere that the fluid is usually 100-110F higher than the ambient temperature. So, I think everything should be okay. I mean, 18F is pretty freakin' cold for us around here. We're more used to 90F summers that seem to never end. But, yeah, towing and highway driving should have it run a bit warmer and like you said...
I'd rather run at 130-140F than 270F lol.
 
GM has been awfully inconsistent with their transmissions over the past decade or so. I have an 8L45 in a midsize truck but this applies to many (but not all) 8L90's. There is NO thermostat so the fluid 100% circulates at all times to the OEM external transmission cooler. My transmission runs 60 degrees above ambient...and it takes some driving to get it there.

So I chuckle a bit when you say "Is 130-135F too cool"!!! On my 45 mile commute home last evening driving 80mph up and down hills on the highway it was 25F outside....my fluid never got above 85F! In fact my transmission fluid may never go above 100F between December and March (8-9k commuting miles) unless there is a warm spell.

This is partially the source for many of the 8Lxx problems during the past decade. The OEM ACDelco fluid did not handle the moisture that would naturally accumulate in the fluid due to condensation. The fluid would not get warm enough to flash off the moisture.

Here is a better version of the pill flip. It removes the OEM thermostat housing that bolts to the trans and installs a better version of the pill. You get to pick the temperature that you want. On my to-do list. Applies to the 6Lxx, 8Lxx, and 10Lxx transmissions.
https://www.improvedracing.com/6l-8l-10l-automatic-transmission-cooler-adapter-with-thermostat.html
 
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In regards to his thoughts that the cylinder deactivation tears up transmissions....nope. The engine cuts fuel to certain cylinders during partial load or coasting situations. The transmission is seeing hardly any load during these times and has no idea what the engine is doing. And to be honest if he is towing or going up and down hills the cylinder deactivation will probably hardly ever kick in. I'm 90% sure it is turned off when the "tow mode" button is turned on or if the vehicle senses that a trailer has been plugged into it.
 
The 4L60E in my 08 Silverado ran around 138'F unloaded in the winter temps like you describe.
 
Had to research "pill flip". GM has an updated thermal bypass valve that opens at 158 instead of 190 that solves the heat problem although that one in your friend's truck must be defective for the trans to go that hot. Is there anything wrong with a trans running cold all the time?

One thing to think about, if something happens to this trans that you know has apparently be running way too hot YOU'RE the one who messed with it.
 
Thanks for the responses. Yeah, I just did the pill flip because it was a simple free mod and I was trying to save him some money. He hadn't been able to sell sheep because someone rearended his last 2016 Silverado 1500 and totaled it and it took awhile for the offender's insurance (Progressive) to finally pay out for him to get another truck so he could work his farm, again. Although, he has another job, but yeah, there's good money in sheep right now and we had to get it fixed ASAP. They sell like hotcakes 2 weeks before Christmas. Mexicans or something love them or something for the Christmas holidays. I'll be sure and let him know there's other options we can do. I know GM made a recall on that part, right? Or if not, at least sells a "fixed" model.
But, I'm gonna be real, I think this may be the way to go. I like this "Pill Flip" mod. Looks like it's definitely gonna be impossible to overheat towing 8000 pounds or more at 70-80mph for 6 hours down the interstate, now.

But, let's be real, it shouldn't have had that issue to begin with.
 
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