24-25MPG, and yeah about 7%. So quite an improvement with the 2% I have now.
Focus and F-150
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Please guys, can we NOT talk about the deal Nick got (or did NOT get)? Let us talk about the car(s). This is what he wanted and he got it. Why are you second guessing him?
Nick and Chevyboys are the only two fun people left here now. Don't try to scare them off, please!
Nick and Chevyboys are the only two fun people left here now. Don't try to scare them off, please!
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
I got to drive a 2012 Focus today.
I hate that DCT transmission.
It didn't know what to do on throttle tip in and rarely knew what to do coming out of a corner.
Seriously, My 41TE is a better sorted/smoother transmission.
I didn't use the "sport" mode with the silly little rocker switch. Side to side autostick and front to back manual gate on my current cars work better for me than a tiny hidden +/- switch
I liked the steering and handling. As long as you don't get on the gas coming out of the corner. Seat was comfortable. Interior is a little pinched for shoulder width but that comes with that class of cars. The engine is rated something like 12 hp more than the Elantra but I couldn't tell. Maybe the DCT needs better programming to better utilize that extra 12 hp.
The interior is better than it's predecessor, but still kinda' cheap feeling in places.
If I could get an SEL or Titanium hatch with a 6 speed manual, it might make my list of cars to replace the PT or Mazda. But I hate that automated transmission.
If it's the 2012 and hasn't had the updated transmisson logic, that's why. So far, from what I've driven of it (all 110 miles), mine is very smooth. Doesn't jerk or lurch when backing up or creeping, no shuddering at low speeds like I've heard. It honestly works flawlessly. Upshifts are smooth and seamless, downshifts aren't quite as perfect, but they are still quite good. If you modulate the throttle properly, the 2.0L puts out enough torque at low RPMs that you don't always even need it to downshift. But it does when you do need it too.
obviously I'll post updates on it, but so far, I couldn't be more plased with the transmission.
Hope you have better results with the transmission then my Niece is having with her Focus.
Like the first Focus, Cruze, CX5 and now this Focus... What is done is done. I would not have done it but hope you are happy.
Wish I was a dealership with your family business.
Take care and enjoy the ride. Bill
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
I got to drive a 2012 Focus today.
I hate that DCT transmission.
It didn't know what to do on throttle tip in and rarely knew what to do coming out of a corner.
Seriously, My 41TE is a better sorted/smoother transmission.
I didn't use the "sport" mode with the silly little rocker switch. Side to side autostick and front to back manual gate on my current cars work better for me than a tiny hidden +/- switch
I liked the steering and handling. As long as you don't get on the gas coming out of the corner. Seat was comfortable. Interior is a little pinched for shoulder width but that comes with that class of cars. The engine is rated something like 12 hp more than the Elantra but I couldn't tell. Maybe the DCT needs better programming to better utilize that extra 12 hp.
The interior is better than it's predecessor, but still kinda' cheap feeling in places.
If I could get an SEL or Titanium hatch with a 6 speed manual, it might make my list of cars to replace the PT or Mazda. But I hate that automated transmission.
If it's the 2012 and hasn't had the updated transmisson logic, that's why. So far, from what I've driven of it (all 110 miles), mine is very smooth. Doesn't jerk or lurch when backing up or creeping, no shuddering at low speeds like I've heard. It honestly works flawlessly. Upshifts are smooth and seamless, downshifts aren't quite as perfect, but they are still quite good. If you modulate the throttle properly, the 2.0L puts out enough torque at low RPMs that you don't always even need it to downshift. But it does when you do need it too.
obviously I'll post updates on it, but so far, I couldn't be more plased with the transmission.
Hope you have better results with the transmission then my Niece is having with her Focus.
Like the first Focus, Cruze, CX5 and now this Focus... What is done is done. I would not have done it but hope you are happy.
Wish I was a dealership with your family business.
Take care and enjoy the ride. Bill
Congrats. So is your mother driving the Expedition once again?
I'm curious what they will list the CX-5 for. My guess is $27k:
http://apps.dealerconnection.com/dealers...eownedImg=false
I'm curious what they will list the CX-5 for. My guess is $27k:
http://apps.dealerconnection.com/dealers...eownedImg=false
I am test driving the Focus today first to see if it is something I like and then perhaps between a new 2012 or 2013 or a used one. For me though I want the MPG and there seems to be a large divide between the 2011 models and 2012-2013 models. I am still driving my 21 year old Camry 223,000 miles and runs well but several oil leaks, paint in bad shape and only 19 MPG on recommended premium fuel. So starting to look around. Focus seems like a good contender. Visited mazda dealer to look at the 3 but the salesperson would not give me straight answers and I walked.
Cavalier, Focus, Cruze, CX5, Focus... I foresee a Corolla or Jetta in your future (before another Focus).
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Wish I was a dealership with your family business.
You and me both.
Quoted for hilarity in 2014...
Originally Posted By: Nick R
I've said this before, this is the last car I will buy, but after the whole thing with the Mazda, this really is.
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Wish I was a dealership with your family business.
You and me both.
Quoted for hilarity in 2014...
Originally Posted By: Nick R
I've said this before, this is the last car I will buy, but after the whole thing with the Mazda, this really is.
And for anyone new to Nick R's new cars, here's the Cavalier, the first Focus, the Cruze and the CX-5.
I like your enthusiasm at each new purchase.
I like your enthusiasm at each new purchase.
The things people do in the name of financial prosperity simply leave me shaking my head.
While I hope you enjoy the car, you would have been much better served investing the money you've spent on cars in the last couple years into your education. Do you realize you could have paid for a college education with the monthly payments you've been making on new cars?
Of course, by investing the money in yourself you wouldn't have a flashy new car to drive around every year. You'd have to be concerned with advancing your career, getting a better job, making more money and being responsible enough to have a place of your own rather than living with mom and dad. And people on discussion forums don't often ooh and aah over things like personal responsibility and fat bank accounts.
People have tried to tell you that you're on a very bad financial path before, but you continue to trade new cars and attempt to borrow your way into financial prosperity despite the warnings. I sincerely hope that you eventually figure out what a self-destructive path you're on, but if the past is any indicator, in a few short years you'll regret the decisions you're currently making. I've seen it happen all too often before, and it ends the same way every time.
While I hope you enjoy the car, you would have been much better served investing the money you've spent on cars in the last couple years into your education. Do you realize you could have paid for a college education with the monthly payments you've been making on new cars?
Of course, by investing the money in yourself you wouldn't have a flashy new car to drive around every year. You'd have to be concerned with advancing your career, getting a better job, making more money and being responsible enough to have a place of your own rather than living with mom and dad. And people on discussion forums don't often ooh and aah over things like personal responsibility and fat bank accounts.
People have tried to tell you that you're on a very bad financial path before, but you continue to trade new cars and attempt to borrow your way into financial prosperity despite the warnings. I sincerely hope that you eventually figure out what a self-destructive path you're on, but if the past is any indicator, in a few short years you'll regret the decisions you're currently making. I've seen it happen all too often before, and it ends the same way every time.
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
TDo you realize you could have paid for a college education with the monthly payments you've been making on new cars?
Time to get with the times, Pop. I don't know where you've been looking at colleges, but they're more than a monthly car payment.
TDo you realize you could have paid for a college education with the monthly payments you've been making on new cars?
Time to get with the times, Pop. I don't know where you've been looking at colleges, but they're more than a monthly car payment.
I've had my '12 Focus SEL for a year and 12k miles now. The DCT started shuddering at takeoff around 500 miles. I lived with it for 1000 miles and then someone on a forum suggested doing 5 0-60 full throttle accelerations in a row. I did it and the shuddering almost immediately went away. I don't think it affected clutch break in that late in the game so I think the "adaptive learning" software sometimes goes awry and the full throttle accelerations helps to "reset it".
Then at around 7,500 miles I took it in for clutch slipping while accelerating. They decided onen clutch was not disengaging properly so replaced the whole clutch pack. It started shuddering again with the new (and possibly improved) clutch pack but the full throttle accelerations cured that once again. Now with a few thousand miles on the new clutch pack the DCT works pretty much perfectly. Some mild jerking motions and uneven acceleration here and there that gives it a slightly unrefined feel, but overall it's smooth and up and downshifts when expected.
Overall the car is very quiet, responsive and handles well. And on my 22-mile suburban commute with at least a dozen stops and some stop and go, I'm getting around 35 mpg. That's much more than I expected when I bought it so I'm very happy with the car.
Then at around 7,500 miles I took it in for clutch slipping while accelerating. They decided onen clutch was not disengaging properly so replaced the whole clutch pack. It started shuddering again with the new (and possibly improved) clutch pack but the full throttle accelerations cured that once again. Now with a few thousand miles on the new clutch pack the DCT works pretty much perfectly. Some mild jerking motions and uneven acceleration here and there that gives it a slightly unrefined feel, but overall it's smooth and up and downshifts when expected.
Overall the car is very quiet, responsive and handles well. And on my 22-mile suburban commute with at least a dozen stops and some stop and go, I'm getting around 35 mpg. That's much more than I expected when I bought it so I'm very happy with the car.
I'm keeping an eye on the new Focus hatch as well as Elantra GT. I will be looking into something newer and with manual gearbox in 2-3 years and these two 2012 models should be priced fairly well by then.
I'm sold on hatches. Over the weekend I was picking up a 55 inch flat screen tv for my in-laws and my 03 Focus had no problems fitting it in with the back seats folded down. Love the versatility!
I'm sold on hatches. Over the weekend I was picking up a 55 inch flat screen tv for my in-laws and my 03 Focus had no problems fitting it in with the back seats folded down. Love the versatility!
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
I'm sold on hatches. Over the weekend I was picking up a 55 inch flat screen tv for my in-laws and my 03 Focus had no problems fitting it in with the back seats folded down. Love the versatility!
I, too, am done with sedans. The versatility of a lift gate is too much to pass up.
I'm sold on hatches. Over the weekend I was picking up a 55 inch flat screen tv for my in-laws and my 03 Focus had no problems fitting it in with the back seats folded down. Love the versatility!
I, too, am done with sedans. The versatility of a lift gate is too much to pass up.
Well, the detailer looked at the imperfection in my dash and said that it looks like it came out of the mold with the defect and he would only make it worse, Ford refused to cover it but dealer said he would give detailer a shot, did not work out.
So, in addition to this I have not received a maintenance report on a Jan 9th service which the SERVICE MANAGER has promised twice, in writing, and could not deliver on. As such I did not test drive the FOCUS and I am now swearing off of all FORD Products and any product from this chain of dealerships .Do not promise me something and then fail to deliver, I never come back!
So, in addition to this I have not received a maintenance report on a Jan 9th service which the SERVICE MANAGER has promised twice, in writing, and could not deliver on. As such I did not test drive the FOCUS and I am now swearing off of all FORD Products and any product from this chain of dealerships .Do not promise me something and then fail to deliver, I never come back!
Pop_Rivit is just trying to give some advice. I can't blame any person for giving their 2¢ worth of free advice on BITOG. I agree Nick has to focus (no pun intended) on his career and move out of his parents house.
I won't buy another new car until our Accord and Civic dies. We are putting 40% of our gross income towards retirement and avoid the Car Show not to be tempted for a test drive.
I won't buy another new car until our Accord and Civic dies. We are putting 40% of our gross income towards retirement and avoid the Car Show not to be tempted for a test drive.
Since we are going off topic what the heck. I don't think there's anything wrong with Nick continuing to stay at his mom's. If there's a bigger financial waste than continuously buying new cars it's paying rent when you don't have to. Renting housing has to be the biggest money pit of all.
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