Fire on AA airplane in Denver

[edyvw]

There are a lot of emergencies every day around the world. Is it a blown tire or a collapsed landing gear in this case, IDK. However, this one is a prime example of human stupidity and selfishness.
Almost everyone has carry-on bags with them, but what caught my eye is dad holding his daughter (33 sec in video) with his left arm, and dragging a big carry-on, which is obviously impeding his movements, and then he takes a nosedive with his daughter.
I was wondering what if that person was in front of me? Trying to pull that suitcase out of the bin, then taking the daughter? Do I just push him and make him move?

 

[2005jettatdi]

If Boeing made better tires this would not have happened. (Sarc)

 

[Vercingetorix]

You really do have wonder how many deaths have been caused by people trying to to rescue their belongings.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Well I saw a post on X this morning on how the human brain has shrunk over time, and thought that it was useless information. But now that I see this thread, maybe its not so useless.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/...has-been-shrinking-and-no-one-quite-knows-why

 

[edyvw]

You really do have wonder how many deaths have been caused by people trying to to rescue their belongings.

Aeroflot 1492 is a prime example.

 

[edyvw]

Well I saw a post on X this morning on how the human brain has shrunk over time, and thought that it was useless information. But now that I see this thread, maybe its not so useless.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/...has-been-shrinking-and-no-one-quite-knows-why

IDk, that smaller brain gave us penicillin, car, etc. But I would say people really need to pay attention to Social Darwinism.

 

[Geekhead]

If Boeing made better tires this would not have happened. (Sarc)

I have never had a blowout with my Boeing tires

 

[JavierH19]

There should be a thousand dollar fine or more for each bag a person clogs the evacuation on a plane with. I keep critical belongings on my person like passports, documents, phone, keys, and wallet. I don't care about clothes and such in my bag. Although it's not stylish I love wearing cargo shorts and pants on flights for that reason.

 

[4WD]

Although it's not stylish I love wearing cargo shorts and pants on flights for that reason.

Magellan still travels the world - thanks to Academy !

 

[edyvw]

There should be a thousand dollar fine or more for each bag a person clogs the evacuation on a plane with. I keep critical belongings on my person like passports, documents, phone, keys, and wallet. I don't care about clothes and such in my bag. Although it's not stylish I love wearing cargo shorts and pants on flights for that reason.

That and athletic shoes. I never travel in anything that is heavy on feet. Something that is good for running and long walking.

 

[loneryder]

They must have used the wrong oil in that engine?

 

[JavierH19]

That and athletic shoes. I never travel in anything that is heavy on feet. Something that is good for running and long walking.

I always wear my sketchers walking shoes for flights and usually during vacations only changing for dinner or the beach/pool.

 

[Astro14]

If Boeing made better tires this would not have happened. (Sarc)

Well - since Boeing doesn’t make tires - I fail to see the relevance.

Perhaps you could talk to Bridgestone, or Michelin.

 

[wwillson]

I'm astonished at the man's lack of instinct to do anything in his power to protection his daughter. Taking the time to grab your carry-on from the overhead bin takes equal precedence as getting your young child out of a potentially burning aircraft? Not to mention everyone behind him. I find his actions to be repugnant.

I travel with one or more of my grandkids on occasion. I promise you that nothing I own is as important as those kids or anyone behind me trying to get off.

 

[edyvw]

I'm astonished as the man's lack of instinct to do anything in his power to protection his daughter. Taking the time to grab your carry-on from the overhead bin takes equal precedence as getting your young child out of a potentially burning aircraft? Not to mention everyone behind him. I find his actions to be repugnant.

I travel with one or more of my grandkids on occasion. I promise you that nothing I own is as important as those kids or anyone behind me trying to get off.

I mean, if plane doesn’t burn, you will get your stuff. If plane burns, well that means you supposed to be out of there pronto!
And than he nosedive where his daughter could hit concrete with her head. His carry on is big. That probably required some pulling-pushing to get out.
That is my original question: what if he was in front of me? I am thinking he wouldn’t be able to get that bag.

 

[Fordiesel69]

First and formost you should be required to take a saftey course to be able to fly.

Secondly the overheat bins should lock and never open in flight, in addition to high fines if you exit the airplane with carry ons. Those actions could cause others to not make it off in time.

 

[wwillson]

what if he was in front of me? I am thinking he wouldn’t be able to get that bag.

If he were in front of me and pulled that, he would see the angry me.

 

[Skippy722]

I mean, if plane doesn’t burn, you will get your stuff. If plane burns, well that means you supposed to be out of there pronto!
And than he nosedive where his daughter could hit concrete with her head. His carry on is big. That probably required some pulling-pushing to get out.
That is my original question: what if he was in front of me? I am thinking he wouldn’t be able to get that bag.

Devils advocate: it’s possible there was medicine for him/the child or medical equipment in it. We have to bring a nebulizer with us if we’re going to be gone more than a day due to one of my kids having asthma. Is grabbing a backpack from under the seat a no no as well? Never flown

 

[Astro14]

Devils advocate: it’s possible there was medicine for him/the child or medical equipment in it. We have to bring a nebulizer with us if we’re going to be gone more than a day due to one of my kids having asthma. Is grabbing a backpack from under the seat a no no as well? Never flown

Also Devil’s advocate - Is the nebulizer worth the life of those several people delayed by your retrieval?

In an actual aircraft fire, people live and die by seconds. Those people who retrieve their bags take seconds away from those behind them. Seconds in retrieving the bag, more seconds in fumbling through the cabin with the bag.

If people leave everything and simply move to the exit, you can evacuate the airplane in 90 seconds.

If people grab their stuff - it can take several minutes. I’ve seen it take 15 minutes for people who try and grab their stuff.

In a real fire, that could cause dozens of deaths, perhaps more.

Move quickly. Leave everything behind.

 

[Fordiesel69]

Also Devil’s advocate - Is the nebulizer worth the life of those several people delayed by your retrieval?

In an actual aircraft fire, people live and die by seconds. Those people who retrieve their bags take seconds away from those behind them. Seconds in retrieving the bag, more seconds in fumbling through the cabin with the bag.

If people leave everything and simply move to the exit, you can evacuate the airplane in 90 seconds.

If people grab their stuff - it can take several minutes. I’ve seen it take 15 minutes for people who try and grab their stuff.

In a real fire, that could cause dozens of deaths, perhaps more.

Move quickly. Leave everything behind.

Get out asap, leave all your stuff, and get medical treatment asap as that will be covered by the airline later on.

There are no medications in the USA that are unobtainium. The ER would provide asthma treatment.

If you were ever a victim of an air disaster, you will be compensated and then some.